Brakes RE: V/N/P/R

[azkwazere]

1. Will VR rotors bolt up to VN/VP's?
2. If "no" is there adapters that enable this?
3. Can standard pads be used with slotted + coss drilled rotors?
4. Do i need a bigger master cyclinder to run bigger discs?
5. Are rear brake rotors the same as front brake rotors?


Than guys/girls.

aZk.

[Zuicider]

vr rotors should if its non abs, standard pads can be used with slotted. if your keeping your brake calipers the same a larger master cyclinder shouldnt be required. rear rotors are not the same as front rotors. as front rotors have bearing cups in them to attach to the hub while rears slide over the hub on the diff

[Zuicider]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....9016&rd=1&rd=1

these beauties are bigger than vn calipers

[azkwazere]

thanx mate!

aZk.

[hakhawk]

vr/s rotors wont fit a vn/p without hub adaptors.

you can use normal pads with slotted/drilled rotors, tho they will chew through quicker(on any pad)

front and rear are different.

it would pay to go a bigger master cylinder with bigger discs, as they usually get quite spongy when bigger discs are used with stock master.


and the finned vr calipers will bolt up to vn, but you need to run the vp 289mm discs(which is a good thing, as the vn's are 270mm stock)

[AirStrike]

1. Will VR rotors bolt up to VN/VP's?Nope and why would you?
2. If "no" is there adapters that enable this? Nope.
3. Can standard pads be used with slotted + coss drilled rotors? Deffine standard pads? It makes no difference.
4. Do i need a bigger master cyclinder to run bigger discs? No, you only need a bigger MC when you change calipers.
5. Are rear brake rotors the same as front brake rotors? Nope.


Than guys/girls.

aZk.

See above.

[azkwazere]

vr/s rotors wont fit a vn/p without hub adaptors.

you can use normal pads with slotted/drilled rotors, tho they will chew through quicker(on any pad)

front and rear are different.

it would pay to go a bigger master cylinder with bigger discs, as they usually get quite spongy when bigger discs are used with stock master.


and the finned vr calipers will bolt up to vn, but you need to run the vp 289mm discs(which is a good thing, as the vn's are 270mm stock)

thanx troy, thinkill just get the group A upgrade... tis only 800.... worth it, hows your cars going? should come round n seem some time...

aZk.

[hakhawk]

yeh, grp a upgrade sounds the go, and get a new 1" master cylinder aswell.

cars are going alright, got some bits for the vp at work today for steering rack.

just added you to msn if you wanna jump on there and chat.

where abouts are you living atm? ur location says 10 outta franga, which is just a wee bit from me still

[azkwazere]

dont use msn... its gay :P

im in churchill (10 outa tralalalalalagon lol)

aZk.

[hakhawk]

lol, kk.

drop down to autobarn between 11 and 2 tomorrow, im working lunch shift.

look for the dude with glasses.

thats if you're not doing anything.

[azkwazere]

coolieos.. ill comedown n see ya!

aZk.

[AirStrike]

Group A for $800
I would check that, I have never seen them for under $1K.

[greenfoam]

You ever looked on ebay maybe fake group A but the same thing :P

[AirStrike]

You ever looked on ebay maybe fake group A but the same thing :P

They use the Group A rotors but the C5 calipers not the C4's.

[azkwazere]

They use the Group A rotors but the C5 calipers not the C4's.

i dont care... its a serious upgrade form what ive got... and the rotors are bigger than the VT upgrades, im happy!

aZk.

[AirStrike]

i dont care... its a serious upgrade form what ive got... and the rotors are bigger than the VT upgrades, im happy!

aZk.

Not saying its not a good buy, just not the group A setup so expect a slightly sponggy pedal.

[azkwazere]

what is the difference with the c4 and c5s? is there a bigger MC than a 1"?

aZk.

[AirStrike]

what is the difference with the c4 and c5s? is there a bigger MC than a 1"?

aZk.

The C4's use a 4:1 booster and a 1" master cylinder. The C5's use a 4.25:1 booster and a 1" quick fill master.

[minux]

You could always go these?

http://holmart.com.au/online/prod1520.htm

I'm seriously contemplating buying because its a darned good price.

[azkwazere]

You could always go these?

http://holmart.com.au/online/prod1520.htm

I'm seriously contemplating buying because its a darned good price.

Bit out of my league.... and almost near overkill, VNs arnt that heavy!

It wont bolt up anyway.... would be nice though!

aZk.

[azkwazere]

so the group A kits come with a c4 then? ... can you use a 1" quick fill on a c4? or is it pointless?

that, and how much difference does a 4 - 4.25 make?

aZk.

[AirStrike]

Bit out of my league.... and almost near overkill, VNs arnt that heavy!

It wont bolt up anyway.... would be nice though!

aZk.

All you need is the $250 coversion hubs to do the fronts.

[azkwazere]

Thats 3K worth of breaks for..... isn't there like a threshold of usefulmess though? like, how much more difference is the HSV kit gonna make over the Group A kit?

aZk.

[minux]

Thats 3K worth of breaks for..... isn't there like a threshold of usefulmess though? like, how much more difference is the HSV kit gonna make over the Group A kit?

aZk.

ALOT, i thought much the same when i went from slotted standard VT brakes to my PBR setup(343/289) and damn i couldnt imagine living without them. Going to this kit would be even better. Brakes can never be too good.

[anton1o]

Im running this setup on my VN6 and it brakes incredibly nice and smooth comparing to stock.

DBA Slotted Front Rotors
Bendix Ultimate Pads(incredibly DUSTY)
SuperDOT 4 Fluids

Next upgrade will be doing the rears.. You can really push your car harder when youve got the safety of stoping much later and much smoother.. I rarely go more then half way on the pedal.