Anyone else having trouble with BP fuel at the moment?

[greenfoam]

I don't know if it's just my servo or BP fuels in general but the last few times I've got fuel from BP (both premium and Ultimate) my car wont idle properly on it. It sounds like its got a massive cam and the IAC can't keep it under control. I know it's the fuel because I can almost run the car outa fuel then get some other fuel from Mobil or Caltex and by the time I lump and almost stall my way outa the servo and wait the the traffic so I can pull out my car magically idles like a champion as the fuel in the lines is used up. I've repeated with experiment 3 times now and wondered what's going on with that?.

I got BP fuel just before the drags a couple of weeks ago and first noticed this then, VQ Rat woudl have heard it struggling to idle as I left because he was just near my car. It has me wondering if it can't generate enough power to idle on that fuel then how much was that costing my times??

[pow3rslave]

haven't had any drama's of late, but i got shell last time.
i usually go BP, but with it being so expensive last week, i used one of those vouchers.

[dufus]

I have been having problems with the idle in my VR since my last tank of Ultimate, but i just put it down to the injector cleaner i added. Now this has got me thinking.

[Morton]

I usually go BP, but have filled up on Mobil (gasp) the last two times, 'cause i'm too lazy to find another servo on the way to uni. I'll try a shot of BP next time I run down and see what happens Very unusual for them,

[pandaman]

Never tried ultimate, now I'm not even tempted. Vortex 98 all the way!

[AirStrike]

AGRSSV only runs on Ultimate, and never a drama yet. You live in the bush Jase, maybe the fuel has been in the bowser for too long

[pandaman]

AGRSSV only runs on Ultimate, and never a drama yet. You live in the bush Jase, maybe the fuel has been in the bowser for too long

Possibly. Although BP had some production dramas with ultimate last year didn't they? Possibly a bad batch has gone through again?

[crazyspoon05]

Had dramas with my last tank (this is the current tank, nearly empty now) too, got a lot less 'k's to the tank than usual as well so I'm guessing an iffy batch was made....

[daron]

bp ewwwwwww runs like bee pee
mobil 8000 all the way
when i used bp my charged motor pings and carries on
used mobil 8000 wont go back

[JD]

i agree with daron 8000 all the way!
but im not near a bp.

[immortality]

could be your local servo also, i know an old mate who always had problems when he filled at a particular servo. he thought they had water in there tanks. i personally never use BP but then again all four petrol companies get there fuel from the same refinery here in NZ so i always wonder how they can advertise fuels with different additives etc (caltex - techron, mobil - synergy, bp - ultimate etc) maybe take a small sample next time when you fil her up and if it still runs crap send the sample to one of those consumer watchdogs for testing etc

[1991_Vn2nV]

Its because they do have different additives mate. The additives are put into the fuel as its being put into the tanker. Regular unleaded changes all the time and can be from any oil company, but premium/98 octane fuel should always be the same, they dont mix and match like they do with standard fuel.

[holden007]

A friend of mine had dramas with is VXSS, ran rough and used alot of fuel. Maybe a bad batch.

[filmur77]

the other fuels places not to buy are from shell i had the same problem where i had idle issue when i bought from shell caltex is the best for me.
the solution is get some octane booster for the car and put half the bottle content before your next fill up and that fixes idle issues with bad fuel 90% of the time. workwed for me.

[greenfoam]

I'm not sure how long to wait till I try BP again it's running fine on Caltex at the moment but a 50-50 blend of BP 95 octane and Ultimate was my favorite race fuel so I'll have to give it another go one day. It wasn't any kind of minor thing, like the car was realllllllly struggling to run at idle, that has to be pretty bad fuel for that to happen. The funyn thing is that I had almost purw Ultimate in at one stage and almost pure 95 at another and still the exact same dodgy idle so it makes me wonder if there really is anything different in those two tanks at my servo

[immortality]

I'm not sure how long to wait till I try BP again it's running fine on Caltex at the moment but a 50-50 blend of BP 95 octane and Ultimate was my favorite race fuel so I'll have to give it another go one day. It wasn't any kind of minor thing, like the car was realllllllly struggling to run at idle, that has to be pretty bad fuel for that to happen. The funyn thing is that I had almost purw Ultimate in at one stage and almost pure 95 at another and still the exact same dodgy idle so it makes me wonder if there really is anything different in those two tanks at my servo

just another reason not to trust the petrol companies........

[PaRaDoX]

ok i work for shell headoffice, you do know that BP dont have a refinary in victoria right????

hence bp 91 isnt from a bp refinary, its produced in one of the 2 other refinaries in victoria, shell have a refinary in gelong and mobile have one somewhere else...

bp95/98 is diffrent... but the fuel quallity depends on the storage site people... ie crappy tanks that havnt been serviced or cleaned in ages will give u crap fuel, 7-11 fuel is shell aswell.. but they usually cheap out on the tanks and contaminate the fuel due to the fact most of em dont care and they'res more water than petrol in there.....

Greenfoam i suggest you try another BP site... most servo's are required to do dips 3 times a day and record it, you can call the headoffice and ask for the dips for that day (people do it all the time)

[VNexecutive]

ive been running on BP ultimate for the past 2 weeks or so, cars running better than ever, maybe just a bad batch? or like said before, just the servo itself..?

[greenfoam]

Theres only one BP within 100 ks of me so I don't have much option on which place I get it from, Normally it's been good and it's a fairly new slick place so I think the tanks would be good. Where does the high octane stuff come from? I'm right on the border anyway so who's to say the fuel comes from Victoria they can bring it from South Australia just as easy if they want to

[Boonz]

mount gambier is a regional distributor thru scotts transport company. so it could possibly come from there. could be the truck it came in??? could of had a filler hatch left open and it rained or somethin but its highly unlikely cos they are usually pretty careful with that kinda thing

[1991_Vn2nV]

ok i work for shell headoffice, you do know that BP dont have a refinary in victoria right????

hence bp 91 isnt from a bp refinary, its produced in one of the 2 other refinaries in victoria, shell have a refinary in gelong and mobile have one somewhere else...

bp95/98 is diffrent... but the fuel quallity depends on the storage site people... ie crappy tanks that havnt been serviced or cleaned in ages will give u crap fuel, 7-11 fuel is shell aswell.. but they usually cheap out on the tanks and contaminate the fuel due to the fact most of em dont care and they'res more water than petrol in there.....

Greenfoam i suggest you try another BP site... most servo's are required to do dips 3 times a day and record it, you can call the headoffice and ask for the dips for that day (people do it all the time)

Tanks are never cleaned unless they are emptied which will only happen if the site is closed down, or the tanks are somehow contaminated or if there is a leak in the tank or excess water. I.e. once every 40 years

[PaRaDoX]

yeah quite true VN2NV

Greenfoam all BP98 is imported from WA where it is made... its too costly for each petrol company to run their own refinary in each state just for reguler fuel, so bp picks up shell fuel from for example the newport terminal and shell pick it up from a BP depo, id post up a map i have but its got some other stuff on it that i might get introubble for posting... ill have to email it home, modify it then post it... pretty much just a map indicating all the shell depo's in Australia as of 2006

yeah water is the biggest contaminator of fuel, ive never worked on site but both my parents (ran many for lots of years) and my brother has so my family is petrol crazy :P

[1991_Vn2nV]

Alot of tanks contain some water which is why the tanks sit slanted in the ground (as the petrol sits on TOP of the water... Hence the problem with ethanol fuel as ethanol MIXES with water). The fuel is not pumped from the bottom so a tank is never run completely dry, just until its below the pumping level.

At Mobil we dont sell fuel if we drop below 2000L or something as it runs the risk of upsetting possible water or sediment at the bottom of the tank. This is also why if a tank is run to below 2000L, we cannot sell fuel for like 4 hours after a fuel delivery, to allow any possible sediment that may have been disturbed by the delivery to settle, avoiding contaminating the fuel being sold to customers.

[kniever]

i always use bp ultimate from the same servo everytime and never had any noticeable differances but the other day on my way home from work my fuel gauge was just below 1/4 so i pulled into a bp on the way(which is alot newer servo than my one) and when i went to leave i could feel the differance bad like it felt alot more responsive and it had more go so ive been going back to that bp and its been nothing but great everytime i fill up now

[1991_Vn2nV]

Tanks are never cleaned unless they are emptied which will only happen if the site is closed down, or the tanks are somehow contaminated or if there is a leak in the tank or excess water. I.e. once every 40 years

Just correcting that... The tanks are not cleaned or even emptied if there is water in the tank. A pump is sent to the bottom of the tank and they simply pump the water out. Maximum amount allowed is 5mm at the bottom of the tank (for our sized tanks atleast which are 40,000L I believe...).

Unless of course there is an actual leak in the tank, which is environmentally dangerous (i.e. petrol leaking into the ground)