cam and chip package

[kniever]

hey guys,

just wanna know what ya's think of this pack whether its worth it and if it would be decent at all.

thnx Ben.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/performance-c...QQcmdZViewItem

[samuels]

hey guys,

just wanna know what ya's think of this pack whether its worth it and if it would be decent at all.

thnx Ben.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/performance-c...QQcmdZViewItem

sounds alright especially if it's a crane cam,haven't finished reading it yet

[samuels]

hey guys,

just wanna know what ya's think of this pack whether its worth it and if it would be decent at all.

thnx Ben.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/performance-c...QQcmdZViewItem

be a bit wary...look at his rating it's only one,he had an SV3800 chip for sale last week,he couldn't of sold it,otherwise his ranking would of went up 1,secondly he states 120Kw's at the rear wheels before the performance chip and cam is installed,the other tuners say that a VN V6 puts out 137Kw's (stock)

[kniever]

a stock vn v6 wouldnt be 137 at the wheels it would be at the fly wheel cos a stock vn v8 is 165 at the fly wheel so they are bout 120 at the wheels.

i might be wrong but im pretty sure thats what it is, greenfoam or someone would know but you are correct about the feedback rating it does look dodgy, i didnt even look at that

[pandaman]

It's not a bad cam. The blue racer line has a decent rep, that particular one is just a little bit chunkier than a VN groupA cam. I wouldn't buy a "performance tune" off that guy though. Frankly you'd be better off buying a package from one of crane's approved suppliers, they can hook you up with a cam and memcal kit which actually includes things like lifters and a gasket kit. Might cost a little more than buying from a dodgy ebay dude but you get peace of mind. On an older engine, using a cam with more lift than standard, you'd probably be well advised to use fresh springs as well.

[jNINE]

i might be wrong but im pretty sure thats what it is, greenfoam or someone would know but you are correct about the feedback rating it does look dodgy, i didnt even look at that

Feedback rating may not change for a while if the buyer is slack about not updating it - I've been guilty about not giving feedback for a week or so myself

[1991_Vn2nV]

be a bit wary...look at his rating it's only one,he had an SV3800 chip for sale last week,he couldn't of sold it,otherwise his ranking would of went up 1,secondly he states 120Kw's at the rear wheels before the performance chip and cam is installed,the other tuners say that a VN V6 puts out 137Kw's (stock)

VN V6 is 125kw's at the fly stock, ~93kw at the wheels stock, 127kw for series 2 and VP at the fly, ~95kw at the wheels.

VN 5L is 163kw at the fly stock, 122kw at the wheels stock.

[greenfoam]

I was talking to a guy last night (local) and his VP made 109rwkw with nothing more than a 2.5 inch cat back, it's been on lpg for 99.9999% of it's life so you can expect it to have almost no engine wear and I guess that his car is about the kind of power a new VP would have been making. I knew another guy with a factory aproved LPG VP and his made 105 rwkw stock. Most half worn out ones make about 100 on the dot. Most VN 5 litres will make 135 rwkw-140 stock.

Also that guy sells the cams by themself pretty cheap so that's the way to go (but you're better with a Wade cam I think)

[1991_Vn2nV]

^^^ Happy dyno's

[Zuicider]

or u could go to an individual grinding place and have them regrind ya cam for around 120 for a v6

[samuels]

Feedback rating may not change for a while if the buyer is slack about not updating it - I've been guilty about not giving feedback for a week or so myself

no it's because he has only been a member since Jan 07,but he has had quite a few items on e-bay,that # next to his name is feedback left from others,you have to have 10 feedbacks left from someone who has bought an item off him before that # can rise and read about his reputation,which isn't looking good at the moment.

[samuels]

I was talking to a guy last night (local) and his VP made 109rwkw with nothing more than a 2.5 inch cat back, it's been on lpg for 99.9999% of it's life so you can expect it to have almost no engine wear and I guess that his car is about the kind of power a new VP would have been making. I knew another guy with a factory aproved LPG VP and his made 105 rwkw stock. Most half worn out ones make about 100 on the dot. Most VN 5 litres will make 135 rwkw-140 stock.

Also that guy sells the cams by themself pretty cheap so that's the way to go (but you're better with a Wade cam I think)

personal preferences...i'd go crane

[kniever]

so whqat would be a good cam for me as i know nothing bout them

[jNINE]

no it's because he has only been a member since Jan 07,but he has had quite a few items on e-bay,that # next to his name is feedback left from others,you have to have 10 feedbacks left from someone who has bought an item off him before that # can rise and read about his reputation,which isn't looking good at the moment.

That's feedback stars after 10 transactions - you can still read feedback left below 10, there just hasn't been any.

[pandaman]

so whqat would be a good cam for me as i know nothing bout them

I'd suggest you start reading up then. Theres a ****load of good technical discussion for the 5L over on the SC forums. Anyway, I've done a lot of reading on the issue and decided on going for a very small cam because i'm too cheap to spend big. (Crow 4001, equivalent to a crane 268) If you're willing to spend the dough on a full cam and memcal kit, but you don't wanna go to the expense of increasing compression then a crane 276 is about as big as I'd go personally. If you're willing to spend some money on getting the heads shaved, you would get a fair bit more power out of the 276, or you could go up to a 284, maybe a 286, although apparently the 286 likes more comrpession than a head shave will give you.

Anyway, have a read of these pages
http://www.crowcams.com.au/templates...n-V8-EFI.shtml
http://www.cranecams.com.au/caminfo/hold8897.htm

That should help you figure out what suits you best.

[samuels]

That's feedback stars after 10 transactions - you can still read feedback left below 10, there just hasn't been any.

no you can't read the fine print

[jNINE]

no you can't read the fine print

lol..., go and look now - positive feedback is showing. He wouldn't have had any earlier as he only actually sold goods at the end of last month, he had some for sale earlier but they didn't actually sell

[samuels]

lol..., go and look now - positive feedback is showing. He wouldn't have had any earlier as he only actually sold goods at the end of last month, he had some for sale earlier but they didn't actually sell

hokie dokie you know....i am reading the page now,telling me i cannot read feedback until his # reaches 10 positive feedbaks!now this fella has had quite a few things on lately,yes, i know he may not of sold them,but for the SV3800 performance chip,that would of went like hot cakes....just makes me wonder thats all

might help if i refresh page huh...he still only has one positive feed back,

[kniever]

bout how much would it cost to get the heads shaved??
i know i cant get an exact figured but close enough would be good so i got an idea

[kniever]

[QUOTE=pandaman;572785]I'd suggest you start reading up then. Theres a ****load of good technical discussion for the 5L over on the SC forums. Anyway, I've done a lot of reading on the issue and decided on going for a very small cam because i'm too cheap to spend big. (Crow 4001, equivalent to a crane 268)

how much did ure cam cost?

[xcop5l]

bout how much would it cost to get the heads shaved??
i know i cant get an exact figured but close enough would be good so i got an idea

my heads cost me about $600-$800 for a shave reseat the valves put my new springs in and racing valve seats in.

my cam cost me about $200 about $100 for a new set of lifters (hevy duty) and $70 for a new timing chain set also the springs cost about $90.

Ok now with your cam, what driving style do you have? where do you want more power (eg down low or up high)? do you tow trailers ect? personally id recomend having it midrange-down low but thats just me (you never really use all your hose power on the street).

vq statesy if you have any more questions or just want to know somthing about cam installs add me to msn and ill be happy to help..... im no guru but ive installed a few cams and assisted over the net with some others

pandaman you have also had countless conversations with me about cams

Zuicider you cant have a cam reground unless you want less lift and less duration than you already have (basicly means less power)

[jNINE]

Zuicider you cant have a cam reground unless you want less lift and less duration than you already have (basicly means less power)

I have a regrind off a standard profile with more lift and duration than standard - they basically take more off the bottom of the lobe (base circle).

[pandaman]

my heads cost me about $600-$800 for a shave reseat the valves put my new springs in and racing valve seats in.

my cam cost me about $200 about $100 for a new set of lifters (hevy duty) and $70 for a new timing chain set also the springs cost about $90.

I paid $495 for cam, valve springs, timing chain and gasket set delivered to my door. A set of lifters cost me around $100, (actually I think dad bought those for me, can't remember why) Paid a little more than xcop5l, but I don't have his contacts.

Ok now with your cam, what driving style do you have? where do you want more power (eg down low or up high)? do you tow trailers ect? personally id recomend having it midrange-down low but thats just me (you never really use all your hose power on the street).

vq statesy if you have any more questions or just want to know somthing about cam installs add me to msn and ill be happy to help..... im no guru but ive installed a few cams and assisted over the net with some others

pandaman you have also had countless conversations with me about cams

vq statesy, if you use msn, add this dude! If you don't use msn, get it then add this dude. He's provided some damn good information whenever I run into problems, in addition to just being an all round good bloke to talk to. Feel free to add me as well if ya like, always good to have more car obsessed nutters to talk to.

[greenfoam]

Some around the crane 276 is allways a good choice for a street motor, that way you wont loose much or any bottom end power and still gain a bit on the top end but even the 276 is starting to get a bit beyond the banana manifold

[AirStrike]

Some around the crane 276 is allways a good choice for a street motor, that way you wont loose much or any bottom end power and still gain a bit on the top end but even the 276 is starting to get a bit beyond the banana manifold

No its not I just purchased a 284 so see what happeneds