air intake

[WhiteLightning]

What effect will it have if i remove the plastic funny shaped thing from my airbox? i am inclined to think it will breathe better because the thing was sucking air from right behind a piece of solid frame. the attachment shows it

[samuels]

What effect will it have if i remove the plastic funny shaped thing from my airbox? i am inclined to think it will breathe better because the thing was sucking air from right behind a piece of solid frame. the attachment shows it

will have an effect but not the desired one ...in fact you may find it will suck in more hot air than cold with that taken off,as it is not as close to cold air as the pipe housing is...

[PaRaDoX]

What effect will it have if i remove the plastic funny shaped thing from my airbox? i am inclined to think it will breathe better because the thing was sucking air from right behind a piece of solid frame. the attachment shows it

its just a snorkel for gettin colder air, you can buy the CAI for $50 that sits ontop of the thermo fan that replaces it

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i took mine off didnt really notice any diff :S jst looks neater

[YMY-88U]

yeh do what paradox said and get a vs s/c cai, they make a good little power increase and only cost around the $50 mark, also make the engine bay look a whole lot neater aswell

[greenfoam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch1WjuAzunM

Cold air is poWa

[samuels]

yeh do what paradox said and get a vs s/c cai, they make a good little power increase and only cost around the $50 mark, also make the engine bay look a whole lot neater aswell

why not go the extra $35.00 and buy the correct one...original GMH for the VN V6,instead of screwing into thermo fan cover,the genuine one actually sits in front of where radiator is clipped in at top.no mods needed,to top or bottom air box,bolts staight into place

it's exactly the same set up as SS forced inductions,does exactly the same thing,just has a cheaper price tag

[Emackulation]

Im not sure about the original one for VN V6 because from what i know they never had a CAI. The VS Supercharged CAI is the way to go for under $50 from a holden dealer. It can be fitted in a matter of minutes without harm to your car.

[samuels]

Im not sure about the original one for VN V6 because from what i know they never had a CAI. The VS Supercharged CAI is the way to go for under $50 from a holden dealer. It can be fitted in a matter of minutes without harm to your car.

GMH keep them,maybe not for $85.00,but not far off that price,and they are made for VN's and VP's....you can get the cheapy ones,like some one has said,but you have to do mods with bottom air box,and usually have to have a heat gun to heat the CAI body so you can push it down approx 15mm so you can shut bonnet

i can put you onto someone that does them for $85.00 + freight (genuine GMH part-no mods)

[hakhawk]

how about a pic? never heard of one for vn/p specifically, if theyre so much better, why dont we have them? im sure someone wouldve shown us by now.

with the vs cai, you can buy the lower box half precut, so you dont have to cut the old box.

i have the vs cai on mine, i didnt have to heat the corners for it to fit, i actually heated ti and made the mouth taller, and the bonnet still closes fine.

the vr/s bonnet is more raised in that area, so doesnt need any work, but some vn's the cai does need "massaging", some dont.

[AirStrike]

Do you have any part numbers, because I have been through the whole GMH part finder program and there is nothing for a VN at all.

[WhiteLightning]

tanks for the replies...and i was thinking of going CAI soon enough. but i have noticed more power off the line when its cold with it removed. this maybe that it is breathing ambient temp air easier. but then once it heats up it goes back normal. maybe cos its again sucking hot/stale air...

[samuels]

Do you have any part numbers, because I have been through the whole GMH part finder program and there is nothing for a VN at all.

i have no part #'s....however has anyone heard of thongy's performance shop? he also operates from ebay...have a look there,as someone said a post or 2 ago,i think these CAI's are VR-VS's but will fit into VN-VP,anyrate,i'll try and find an ebay listing,or his shop listing,unless someone beats me to it
if you look on e-bay you will see these cheapy ones,read up on them,then compare to what thongy's sell

[samuels]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Cold-Air-Inta...QQcmdZViewItem

theres the cheapy link,on ebay of course...i'm not on my comp at the moment,thongy's have gone off ebay while renovating his shop,but still can get his genuine CAI's in for the VN ...no mod,i'll post his ebay link when i get home tonight,then you all can compare and decide

[AirStrike]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Cold-Air-Inta...QQcmdZViewItem

theres the cheapy link,on ebay of course...i'm not on my comp at the moment,thongy's have gone off ebay while renovating his shop,but still can get his genuine CAI's in for the VN ...no mod,i'll post his ebay link when i get home tonight,then you all can compare and decide

That's not a factory VN one mate, its the VS L67 one.

[PaRaDoX]

i have no part #'s....however has anyone heard of thongy's performance shop? he also operates from ebay...have a look there,as someone said a post or 2 ago,i think these CAI's are VR-VS's but will fit into VN-VP,anyrate,i'll try and find an ebay listing,or his shop listing,unless someone beats me to it
if you look on e-bay you will see these cheapy ones,read up on them,then compare to what thongy's sell

then they're not genuine VN/VP ones..... as what model were they released with........ ?

[hakhawk]

yeh, thats the vs cai. i wouldnt call it cheapy, its done the job quite well for the last how many years of people putting them on their vn's.

is this thongys shop?

http://stores.ebay.com.au/Thongys-Auto-Parts

maybe hes finished renovating.

why cant you get his ebay link when you can get the vs cai ebay link?

[samuels]

then they're not genuine VN/VP ones..... as what model were they released with........ ?

i don't know about this fellas rep,even though he states genuine...but he also states mods needed
thongy's state what models his are for and he states VN-VP V6 CAI,he has a good rep,he also states genuine parts- no mods needed like others
as i said i'll post his link when i get home tonight,then you can tell if it's genuine parts or not....

[samuels]

yeh, thats the vs cai. i wouldnt call it cheapy, its done the job quite well for the last how many years of people putting them on their vn's.

is this thongys shop?

http://stores.ebay.com.au/Thongys-Auto-Parts

maybe hes finished renovating.

why cant you get his ebay link when you can get the vs cai ebay link?

thats him...don't see his CAI's though even for a VS,hey c'mon now i'm not disputing anything here,i merely just made a suggestion,if they are out of a VS, well then thats what they are out of then,he states that he has them to fit VN's with no mods...once again,when i get home,i will post the VN link
thongy's price is $85 + delivery....and no it's not cheap,all i said was why not go the extra $35($47.00 cheapy,as someone else mentioned)and get the genuine one...i wasn't here to start arguing again...

[hakhawk]

ok, go back to your link and read it all the way through, its the same as i said.

the cai he is selling is genuine vs l67 cai. he states that you need to cut a hole in the lower airbox, then he also says, you can buy the genuine lower half, precut.

Installation includes modification for the bottom of the existing air box, this is easily done with a jigsaw. If you do not want to do this yourself a genuine Holden pre cut bottom is available ($40). However; it is recommended you attempt to modify the air box yourself first and if any problems occur you can always get another bottom later. Your car will run fine without the bottom of the air box in the meantime as it is before the air filter.

tho i dont agree with his "Your car will run fine without the bottom of the air box in the meantime as it is before the air filter." if the lower half is off the car, the filter wont stay in place.

[samuels]

ok, go back to your link and read it all the way through, its the same as i said.

the cai he is selling is genuine vs l67 cai. he states that you need to cut a hole in the lower airbox, then he also says, you can buy the genuine lower half, precut.



tho i dont agree with his "Your car will run fine without the bottom of the air box in the meantime as it is before the air filter." if the lower half is off the car, the filter wont stay in place.

some how i think we are getting crossed here....the page i'm looking at...if it is for thongy's performance....has nothing to that effect,in fact he has no CAI's listed even via your link...the link i supplied...YES a mod is needed for that one,but for thongy's,he states no mods needed for peace of mind

i see whats happened you looking at sorijens site....his CAI's need mods...yes,i can see that ,i knew that,thats what i have already said

[hakhawk]

yeh, thats right.

thongy probably sells the whole cai and lower box setup, hence the cost and no mods required.

if his uses the stock box for some reason, then thats why ive never seen one, coz it would be crap. the hole needed to be cut for the vs cai is a bigger hole than what the stock snorkel hole is, this results in more air at a given time going into the box than the stock snorkel.

in which case, myself and anyone else that has even the most basic knowledge of airflow, would prefer to go the vs cai, and cut the box, or buy it precut and get more out of it.

[samuels]

yeh, thats right.

thongy probably sells the whole cai and lower box setup, hence the cost and no mods required.

if his uses the stock box for some reason, then thats why ive never seen one, coz it would be crap. the hole needed to be cut for the vs cai is a bigger hole than what the stock snorkel hole is, this results in more air at a given time going into the box than the stock snorkel.

in which case, myself and anyone else that has even the most basic knowledge of airflow, would prefer to go the vs cai, and cut the box, or buy it precut and get more out of it.

true...but like you said,or was it someone else? it would be out of a VS so why would the hole be smaller,i'm assuming you mean that a VS stock CAI is different altogether on what we are talking about?

[hakhawk]

ok, the lower half of the airbox from vn-vs are all the same, same size snorkel hole except the hole on the vs supercharged v6 lower box half.

no vn -vs n/a v6 had a CAI, only the l67 supercharged ones.

what i meant about thongy using a stock airbox, is that if the cold air intake that he sells is made different to the vs l67 cai, then it could possibly have a smaller snorkel on it to fit the stock n/a airbox from vn-vs. make sense? i hope so, this is all getting confusing, need a pic of what hes selling, will clear it all up i reckon.

[samuels]

ok, the lower half of the airbox from vn-vs are all the same, same size snorkel hole except the hole on the vs supercharged v6 lower box half.

no vn -vs n/a v6 had a CAI, only the l67 supercharged ones.

what i meant about thongy using a stock airbox, is that if the cold air intake that he sells is made different to the vs l67 cai, then it could possibly have a smaller snorkel on it to fit the stock n/a airbox from vn-vs. make sense? i hope so, this is all getting confusing, need a pic of what hes selling, will clear it all up i reckon.

ok, yes making sense....as i have said,when i get home,i will post link up,and hopefully will show up and not come up as a dead link,as i said he is renovating his shop,you will be able to tell then,as he has pics up of it,although just the parts itself.i can also ask him what size it is,as if i'm going that way, i don't want to restrict it like you say,because i won't achieve the desirable effect.