Speakers in rear parcel shelf

[Pompeygaz]

Hi Guys, this is my first post on here.
Just bought a VN series II Berlina.
I have been trying to figure out how to get to the speakers on the rear parcel shelf. I want to replace them with 6 inchers but retain the original speaker grill.
Any ideas would be appreciated. Do you have to remove the rear seat to get to the parcel shelf and if so, how do you remove the seat?
Thanks in advance.

[rattattack1313]

not sure about the berlina, but with my vp sedan, i had to remove the back seats.....remove the bottom of the seat,and then the top is on hooks at the top,and a little bolt at the bottom..undo the bolt, then just a matter of grabbing the back of the seat, and wiggling it upwards....there should be some prepunched plates on the shelf...knock them out, and install the speakers...doesn't matter if you only get 3 screws in on each speaker... then cut the carpet stuff...leave a little extra on it....can't put it back on after you have cut it, so be careful...have fun!!!!!!!!!

[ndatkins]

in my series one vn berlina, i just used a screw driver to gently lift the cage off, no screws it just bent into the shelf, then replaced speakers, flattened the tabs and put the cages back on

[vinnywelsh]

i also have a vn series 2 berlina. i found the easiest way was to remove the grills with a screwdriver and undo the screws with a verry small screw driver (room for movement under window) just like ndatkins

only problem i have had so far is i find the grills will sometimes vibrate when the music is up loud.

[Pompeygaz]

Thanks Guys
I'll give it a go on the weekend!

[ViperVp]

on an exec were do there wires stop, the ones that reach the rear speakers because i have made my custom shelf with speakers in there but no wires too connect 'em up? are they along the drivers door or something?

[ben7]

i also have a vn series 2 berlina. i found the easiest way was to remove the grills with a screwdriver and undo the screws with a verry small screw driver (room for movement under window) just like ndatkins

only problem i have had so far is i find the grills will sometimes vibrate when the music is up loud.

the problem i have with that is my speakers are too big to fit through the existing hole... and im not even sure if the stock ones would lift out through it, i am in the process of replacing all 4 speakers at the moment.. which involves takin out the back seats for me .

Ben

EDIT: i forgot i was in vn-vp.. im not sure if it is different for vr.

[rattattack1313]

if you bolt the speakers on the underside of the shelf.you might have to drill a new hole or two,,(shhhh!!!!!!!) but they should fit...as to the grilles rattling, i struck a VB football on the edge of each grille..no more rattle, and i can spot my car from the rear a mile away.....