VN/VP V8 distributor

[h0Ld3n`VN]

how many ways are there to test if it works i think this is why it doesnt start at all?? is it safe for me to turn over the car while the distributor cap is off, to see if the dizzy spinss or is that a bad thing since it has no spark plugs connected to it??? coz i dont want to do damage to the car or anything..

tnxxx..

p.ss.. ive tried the fuel system, ignition, ignition module, fuses ground wires. bateriesss, ECU'z

but not the starter motor

well the car does turn over but no spark so im right last thing to check is the distributor yeah?

soo i need abit info.. the gregories doesnt supply much info on the distributor

any help would be appreciated

[immortality]

if you take the cap off you can check by hand to see if the rotor is fixed. if you can turn it something is wrong. turning it over without the cap won't hurt anything cause the hightension lead from the coil isn't connected to anything.

have you done a fault code check? how old are the rotor and cap? have you checked/changed plugs and leads?

[14secvp]

is it still not going man you must be sick of not driving it.cranking it with no cap will be sweet as you could put a plug in the coil lead and earth it to the engine to make doubley sure nothing stuffs out but it should be ok you still got no spark then obviously.let us know wether itt spins.

[h0Ld3n`VN]

okayyy ive done that spannersss it was so hard to do it, i had to video record with my fone to see if it spins :O haha,.. yes it does spin?
AND YES IM SICK OF IT NOT STARTING i tryed about everything

[Hillerus]

Have you checked the coil?

[h0Ld3n`VN]

ive checked the dizzy then, n its spining

coil?

[Hillerus]

Yeah thats where the spark comes from. If its no good, you wont be going anywhere. Its down on the P/S side of the dizzy, slightly lower. Just follow the middle lead on the dizzy cap.

[14secvp]

so no spark at all out the coil lead either is there 12 volts at the coil positive with the ignition on if so is it still there when you crank it over

[h0Ld3n`VN]

i havent tested out the coil/distributor out.. right at the moment i checked if it was moving well ill get to it soon thanks.

it use to have an imbolizer but i removed it, could this effect it coz i joined all the original wires back on

[14secvp]

yes it could .also have you checked fuse number 11 if s1 and fuse 9 if s2 engine under the steering column and the ignition relay under there too.do you have 12 volts at coil + with key on this will tell us if theres power getting there and to the ignition module

[h0Ld3n`VN]

yes im pretty sure its a S1 motor 92 july i think it was

ok ill this all wen theres sunlight ill get bak to u

[14secvp]

youll have the ignition fuse under the column on fuse 9 with the guage power does the fuel guage come up when you turn the key on its the same fuse and the one fusable link in the engine bay labelled engine

[h0Ld3n`VN]

yes the fuel guage works..
and my friend had this problem with hes ford falcon el.
hes car was turning over but no spark.. when he changed hes coil over it started

[Hillerus]

yes the fuel guage works..
and my friend had this problem with hes ford falcon el.
hes car was turning over but no spark.. when he changed hes coil over it started

The coil is pretty much where the spark comes from. If its buggered, so are you.

[h0Ld3n`VN]

so if the distributor spins its not the distributor?? so its the ignition coil..? coz b4 the car stoped working something smelt like it was burning lol.. so im guessing its that?

[h0Ld3n`VN]

so if the distributor spins its not the distributor?? so its the ignition coil..? coz b4 the car stoped working something smelt like it was burning lol.. so im guessing its that?

[pandaman]

so if the distributor spins its not the distributor?? so its the ignition coil..? coz b4 the car stoped working something smelt like it was burning lol.. so im guessing its that?

Nope. Even if the distributor spins it could still be rooted. In fact it's unlikely that the distributor would ever develop a fault that would stop it from spinning, it would require some pretty heavy damage to the mechanism. My next step would be to pull the coil and hit it with a multimeter. Should have a very low resistance between the low voltage positive (where the battery hooks on) and the negative terminal and a higher (couple of Kohms) between the high voltage positive (where the distributor lead hooks on) and the negative terminal. If either of those yields an infinite resistance, then your coil is cooked and you have found your problem. If the fault is in the distributor, then my bet would be on the hall effect sensor. But I'd definitely reccomend checking the coil first because it's easy.

[h0Ld3n`VN]

thanks pandaman. i think its the coil too, thats my next mission to check it out. hopefully its that

[badberlina5.0]

hey dude let us know how you get on as i have just had the very same thing happen to me. i have been having issues with my 5l surging for a few weeks and a mechanic told me it was caused by the hall effects sensor and or play in the dizzy shaft. (well the shaft did have alot of play in it up an down) so i put a brand new dizzy in (what a mongrel to change) and all went well although it did not resolve the surging issue but then i drove to the shop about 1k from home and the car started to backfire splutter and cough then stalled now it wont restart and has no spark so i would be very interested in how you get on so as to try and resolve my problem. i forgot to mention when it stopped there was a horrible burning smell which seemed to be comming from the cat convertor and abit of smoke aswell.
hope you get it sorted Duane

[h0Ld3n`VN]

yes that happened to me to 'badberlina5.0" but yea i cant be stufd with it anymore da vn and vp is for sale im buying a new car

[badberlina5.0]

the answer could be rather simple i have done a diagnostic on my ecu and came back with a code 41 no crank signal which comes down to be the ignition module could be worth looking at if you have not already.

[Boonz]

no crank signal would be the hall effect sensor inside the distributor not the DFI module...

[badberlina5.0]

i changed DFI problem solvered including the surging issue i had

[h0Ld3n`VN]

what is the DFI?
i replaced most stuff and checked for codes used different ECU's got new ignition module n new COIL hmm what is the dfi
but i bet my problem is the immoblizer i pulled apart n no the security lock thing doesnt work its on switched off side

[pandaman]

what is the DFI?
i replaced most stuff and checked for codes used different ECU's got new ignition module n new COIL hmm what is the dfi
but i bet my problem is the immoblizer i pulled apart n no the security lock thing doesnt work its on switched off side

DFI is ignition module. There are various troubleshooting methods you could apply if you really felt like it, but if you believe selling it is your best option then meh, your choice.