vlt engine in vp
g'day guys,
is a vl k-frame a straight bolt up affair into a vp? if so can i use v8 struts and all front end?
does the vl straight 6 fit in the bay without any hassles?
any info on this conversion would be great
the k frame will bolt in, one of my mates put a vn v6 in to a vl wagon and it dropped stright in, there sould be enough room in the engine bay caz i have seen a vr with and rb30t in it.
http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...luke-s-vn.html
Read that, It's VN_Lukes RB30 powered VN, no turbo just yet but it's comming soon.
It's all registered and legal in Victoria without an engineers certificate.
Oh yeah the K frame goes in and you can keep the VN rack, use the VL radiator, VN exhaust bolts up etc etc. It all bolts up since the RB30 was the proper motor for the VN the V6 was a last minute adaption, The Speedo sender needs to be from a R31 Skyline
i know it goes straight into a vn, but is there any difference installing it into a vp? like can a vp rack be used, vp struts etc.
and you say its legal? how is this?
it is basicaly the same car, so it should fit
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VN/P are the same...
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i just read lukes thread seems straight forward, what was done about the vl gearbox crossmember? is that a straight bolt on affair?
Pretty sure Luke just bolted the VL crossmember straight on. He will see this thread sooner or later, Before you get the motor in anyway :P
yeah im buying a n/a block, i have a highflow series 4 rx7 turbo off my rx3 ill use on a standard exhaust manifold.
standard box shift kitted, standard ratio rear end
just after a neat cruiser vp wagon!!
also was a vlt computer used with a vn loom or vlt computer and loom?
Tells it like it is.
No doubting what you say - yes the mechanicals should be a straight forward bold on affair but I can't see how the motor is legal from an emissions stand point??? Was it from a Australian delivered car that was manufactured on or after the VN???Originally Posted by greenfoam
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The VL passed the same ADR as the VN VP VR and series one and two VS, that's why it's legal
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gearbox crossmember is a bolt in affair - as is everything else in the car
hot tip: to get the speedo in the vn working, use an R31 electronic speedo sender and wire into VN speedo sender cables
VL/VN/VP/VR motors all passed ADR 37/00 (the emisssions adr)...
there's no such rule about an 'older motor into a newer car' , only that the motor must meet the same or newer ADR's to the car that it is being fitted into.
If people believe that such a rule exists, lets just pretend the engine was pulled from a '92 series 3 r31 skyline
luke your help would be great along the way when i get my conversion underway not chasing big power like you, just a neat cruise with alittle get up and go....got my rx3 for power. i am hoping for at least 140rwkw's on a n-a block with turbo computer and highflow turbo.
whats your thoughts
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happy to help with anything I can mate, just pm me or find my msn details somewhere
for ideas on what you can expect power wise, check out ct - the boys there have tried just about every way to extract power from an rb30 I reckonmild to wild.!
the n/a blocks can handle heaps more power than what you're after - though this all depends on the tune!
In terms of reliability and safe power etc, I'd say the tune is the single most important thing when doing a budget build (and even when not!)
- it might be worth your while reading up a fair bit about tuning the stock ECU, or might be worth the few hundred dollar investment for an aftermarket item so that you can get it tuned safely, if you're not up to the task yourself!
I'd think you could get more like 180rwkw with a cooler and a extra boost from a stock turbo, The VL boys seem to get that much. I've seen a guy get nearer 250rwkw on a stock NA block with a big turbo. Pay attention to Lukes NA computer retuning theory in the next few months
would a fuel only computer be enough? say a digi 1? or digi 2?
or would i have to go more mtx8 or wolf, ill read up about it and see how i go, ill start collecting bits
thanks for the heads up, my turbos a highflow mazda item, t3 rear with airesearch .6 comp cover. good for 12 psi max
u will need a vl loom and ecu, plus tha airflow meter
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Really you need control over fuel AND spark..
yeah the wiring's a bit of an ass - but if you end up using a microtech or something that needs rewiring anyway, well then there's all your vl/vn mating issues gone
i would love to get away with it using either vl computer and loom plus re-tune, or make the vp loom work on a vl ecu??
how is your set-up done luke?
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I've got a VL engine loom that hooks into the VL ECU - then i've made a custom harness that adapts the vl ecu + engine harness to the VN
so basically the VN ecu and engine 'plug in' to the VN now.
you can re-tune the stock ECU either manually with a hex editor of some sort (or tuner pro or something) and an EPROM burner (and a socketting modification to the ECU) - although this is only in 'experimental' stages by the 'open tuning' community, although with the help of greenfoam I've gotten a modified tune to run on my stock RB30 ecu, along with the ability to convert an NA ecu to a turbo ecu! (while modifying the turbo maps to work with an NA motor)
There's still a few glitches, but it's getting there slowly but surely - and more importantly, it's POSSIBLE to retune the stock ECU at home.
There's a guy that's dissapeared somewhere into the depths of the net called 'darkhalf' who was the nissan ECU guru. He wrote some software called 'nistune' and developed a 'real time tuning development board' that connects to the RB30 ecu adn allows for real time tuning etc - last I heard this was available for around 300 - 400 bux the lot.
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cheers for the link, is a vlt dizzy needed or standard vl?
so many questions ill have to grab your msn.
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