Questions about 2 not so common VN's.....

[Cobez]

Hey guys, i have a few questions about a couple of different VN's that seem to be getting around.



Yesterday i saw a white VN, had a VN SS kit on it, was a 5 litre, but the decals on the bootlip said "SPLUS" and not "SS". How is this different to an ss in the ways of interior, power, body, and general specs?


Also the VN+6's, SV3800's and the SV5000's..... how are they different to a normal VN exec in the same ways as mentioned above??


(sorry, that's more than 2 VN's, but you still can't seem to edit headings)

[CSL]

taken from performance forums -
vn 6+
100 Built March - August 1991
60 Auto / 40 Manual

It was a Melbourne Motor Show "show special" car only that HSV built for Holden.
It was built following the prior 1990 "8 Plus" as a V6 due to the Gulf crisis and rapidly rising fuel costs.

loosely based on the Commodore S, it had a share of SS and HSV SV3800 and HSV Clubsport bits added to it.. (ie, SV3800 body kit, SS alloy Wheels, Clubsport Grille)


As for Engine / Gearbox....
Sadly, it was left stock - as a contract build for Holden, there were no engine/gearbox enhancements - 125kW / 292Nm
Manual - 5 Spd T5 Borg Warner
Auto - 4 Spd Turbo Hydramatic 700
LSD - 3.08:1
Suspension - standard FE2 Spec.

[Cobez]

So the +6 is just a factory stock V6 VN with a HSV kit and different paint from the exec / berlina range?

[AirStrike]

Not an SPLUS was a 8PLUS. Was basically a HSV enhanced *shudders* white VN SS. Different wheels, trim and 180i package.
SV5000 differs in that its based on the Berlina platform, so scores the lvl3 dash, climate (not all SV5000), etc. On top of that it had performance brakes, HSV trim, red engine package (200kw), etc, etc

[AirStrike]

I'll post full details in the morning Cobez.

[And_ROOS]

Im told the +6 has the SV3800 engine but that it puts out 132kw. Whats the go? I get alot of contradictory information about it.

[1991_Vn2nV]

Im told the +6 has the SV3800 engine but that it puts out 132kw. Whats the go? I get alot of contradictory information about it.

The SV3800 has a stock engine, power just comes from a 'big bore exhaust' and tune as far as I know.

[Cobez]

Not an SPLUS was a 8PLUS. Was basically a HSV enhanced *shudders* white VN SS. Different wheels, trim and 180i package.
SV5000 differs in that its based on the Berlina platform, so scores the lvl3 dash, climate (not all SV5000), etc. On top of that it had performance brakes, HSV trim, red engine package (200kw), etc, etc

Ahhhh, 8plus, it was a few cars down so i assumed it said Splus. But yes, white isn't the nicest colour for VN SS's. In fact it's haggard. So i'm guessing it just ran a HSV tune........

It sounds like the SV5000 was quite a nice little HSV package!!

[AirStrike]

Ahhhh, 8plus, it was a few cars down so i assumed it said Splus. But yes, white isn't the nicest colour for VN SS's. In fact it's haggard. So i'm guessing it just ran a HSV tune........

It sounds like the SV5000 was quite a nice little HSV package!!

HSV VN 8 Plus
*80 built
*180kw package. Dual exhaust, SV5000 CAI, tune, knock sensor, modded auto
*SS body kit with addition of SV3800 single slot grill and 8 plus decals
*SS trim with addition of momo leather steering wheel and SV seat bolsters
*Was the first white SS used to gauge public reaction to the colour

HSV VN SV5000
*60 Rose Grey, 291 SV racing green, 4 Ruby red, 3 Imperial blue and 1 Alpine white
*200kw package. Flat top pistons, different cam, bigger valves and upgraded valve springs, knock sensor, CAI, extractors and twin exhaust, tune and different throttle body (don't know what is different).
*Group A spec brakes
*Larger sway bars
*VL width rear track
*Trim is standard berlina with the addition of a 7 band graphic equalizer and elec aerial, Howe leather bolstered seats, momo steering wheel, calais alarm system, lvl 3 dash, elec mirrors, cruise, elec windows, central locking.
*Was available in auto only

This is a very brief description because im lazy and can't be assed typing more

[And_ROOS]

So the +6 DOES or does not put out the 132kw people keep telling me?

[AirStrike]

The only VN HSV models with the 132kw V6 package are the SV3800 and SV6.

[Cobez]

HSV VN 8 Plus
*80 built
*180kw package. Dual exhaust, SV5000 CAI, tune, knock sensor, modded auto
*SS body kit with addition of SV3800 single slot grill and 8 plus decals
*SS trim with addition of momo leather steering wheel and SV seat bolsters
*Was the first white SS used to gauge public reaction to the colour

HSV VN SV5000
*60 Rose Grey, 291 SV racing green, 4 Ruby red, 3 Imperial blue and 1 Alpine white
*200kw package. Flat top pistons, different cam, bigger valves and upgraded valve springs, knock sensor, CAI, extractors and twin exhaust, tune and different throttle body (don't know what is different).
*Group A spec brakes
*Larger sway bars
*VL width rear track
*Trim is standard berlina with the addition of a 7 band graphic equalizer and elec aerial, Howe leather bolstered seats, momo steering wheel, calais alarm system, lvl 3 dash, elec mirrors, cruise, elec windows, central locking.
*Was available in auto only

This is a very brief description because im lazy and can't be assed typing more

Awesome thanks dude I'd say the SV5000 is quite a nice package for a car of it's time!

[AirStrike]

Awesome thanks dude I'd say the SV5000 is quite a nice package for a car of it's time!

Basically an auto Group A without the twin throttles.

[Cobez]

Wicked! So you could get a twin TB manifold and whack in on an SV5000, give it a big of a retune and you would have an auto group a? How many KW were the group a's getting stock?

[AirStrike]

Wicked! So you could get a twin TB manifold and whack in on an SV5000, give it a big of a retune and you would have an auto group a? How many KW were the group a's getting stock?

Don't get too carried away, the Group A is massivly under tuned.
VN Group A - 215kw - Flat top pistons, D port heads with large valves, decent cam, etc
SV5000 - 200kw - Flat top pistons, O port heads with larger valves, small cam

[Cobez]

Ahh i see. If i had the choice between the 2, i'd go the group a just for my love of big bodykits.

But for extra's i'd definantly go the SV5000, especially the SV racing green, very nice colour. I wonder why they would even bother making only ONE alpine white SV5000.

[AirStrike]

Ahh i see. If i had the choice between the 2, i'd go the group a just for my love of big bodykits.

But for extra's i'd definantly go the SV5000, especially the SV racing green, very nice colour. I wonder why they would even bother making only ONE alpine white SV5000.

Was a pre-production model, was an exec base so no frills. Was the only manual one aswell

[Cobez]

I suppose it had the SV5000 kit and not the VN SS kit. I agree with you about white VN SS's. They make baby Jeebus ---->

[AirStrike]

I suppose it had the SV5000 kit and not the VN SS kit. I agree with you about white VN SS's. They make baby Jeebus ---->

Has the SV5000 kit, but no decals or badges bar the HSV boot badge. Has exec trim and all
Was built in 1989, even tho the SV5000 wasn't released till 1991. Car had 7 different engines in it during its test life.
I've uploaded some pics, as you can see its full pov pack Grey garnish and trims, no red throttle and fuel rail covers, etc.

[Cobez]

It looks like a mock-up that someone put together AFTER the 91' release lol. Talk about "prodotypes" lol.

[greenfoam]

There was one white auto SV5000 too, The SV5000 is actually slighty quicker in a straight line than the group A, mostly thanks to the manifold being ready to go for 7000 revs at bathurst and the tune being pretty mild. Both low 14 second cars on a good bit of track

[Cobez]

The only problem i'd find with owning a car like either of those 2, is the fact that the power bug bites you, and i wouldn't want to mod either of those kinds of cars if they are already still in original, clean condition.

[AirStrike]

There was one white auto SV5000 too, The SV5000 is actually slighty quicker in a straight line than the group A, mostly thanks to the manifold being ready to go for 7000 revs at bathurst and the tune being pretty mild. Both low 14 second cars on a good bit of track

Auto one went to the Sultan of Brunei

[Cobez]

Is that really true though? I heard it was a load of BS. But then again, people hear alot of things.....

[AirStrike]

Is that really true though? I heard it was a load of BS. But then again, people hear alot of things.....

People confuse the two white SV's.