VN / VP 5 litre engines......

[Cobez]

Hey guys, quick question, were the VN / VP injected 5 litre engines all 304's?

[Reaper]

Yep.

Reaper

[Cobez]

That's all i needed to know. Cheers buddy!

[Wagon_Wheel]

Yeah man you shoulda known that.
All injected holden 5ltrs were the 304, carbied were 308

[VNexecutive]

hmm typo much^ haha.

[AlpineRaven]

Yeah they are the same but VR's onwards has a few changes.
Cheers
AP

[STEALTHY™]

Yeah man you shoulda known that.
All injected holden 5ltrs were the 308, carbied were 308

You were probably trying to say EFI = 304 and Carby = 308, which isn't the case.


Any 5L V8 from 85 onwards (not sure of the month, but somewhere through there) are all 304s. Which makes SOME VKs 304s. This was because of the Group A racing rules. Not totally sure, but i think all VLs were 304 aswell.

[Wagon_Wheel]

Whoops, yeah you know i mean 304.
But yeah, i knew the Vl's had the 304 but didnt they have a carby and injected motors?

[Hillerus]

I think the Walky was the only Vl that had an Injected 5litre.

[STEALTHY™]

Whoops, yeah you know i mean 304.
But yeah, i knew the Vl's had the 304 but didnt they have a carby and injected motors?

Nope. Only Carby motors. (Walkys aren't made by holden)

[VLDavo]

You were probably trying to say EFI = 304 and Carby = 308, which isn't the case.


Any 5L V8 from 85 onwards (not sure of the month, but somewhere through there) are all 304s. Which makes SOME VKs 304s. This was because of the Group A racing rules. Not totally sure, but i think all VLs were 304 aswell.

yea vls were 304s

[Hillerus]

Nope. Only Carby motors. (Walkys aren't made by holden)

Yes, but a Walky is still a Vl, so technically a Vl did have an Injected 5litre.

[STEALTHY™]

Yes, but a Walky is still a Vl, so technically a Vl did have an Injected 5litre.

but my comment said midway through VK, and VL Holdens. Nothing about limited edition builds.

[Hillerus]

Whoops, yeah you know i mean 304.
But yeah, i knew the Vl's had the 304 but didnt they have a carby and injected motors?

This is the quote I was originally referring to. Again, technically, a Vl had an Injected v8 in it, limited edition or not.

[STEALTHY™]

This is the quote I was originally referring to. Again, technically, a Vl had an Injected v8 in it, limited edition or not.

Well technically anything is possible. I know of VLs with V6s in them (i had one in my VK).


I was talking about holden released cars. Not ones modified by HSV

[Hillerus]

Well technically anything is possible. I know of VLs with V6s in them (i had one in my VK).


I was talking about holden released cars. Not ones modified by HSV

Was a Vl for sale with a V6? No. Was a Vl for sale with an Injected V8? Yes.

The question was asked if a Vl came out with an Injected V8. Yes it did, in the Walky, which I believe is considered a VL SS Group A Commodore.
So still a Vl, still a Commodore, regardless of whether or not it was modified/special edition/whatever.

[STEALTHY™]

Was a Vl for sale with a V6? No. Was a Vl for sale with an Injected V8? Yes.

The question was asked if a Vl came out with an Injected V8. Yes it did, in the Walky, which I believe is considered a VL SS Group A Commodore.
So still a Vl, still a Commodore, regardless of whether or not it was modified/special edition/whatever.

750 out of 100,000 is hardly worth mentioning to the extent you have. He was talking about an injected 304 motor as in VN onwards, not a TTB Group A motor.


Yes there factory fitted (in HSVs factory), but 5L VLs in Exec/Berlina/Calais spec are carbys. We both know what the guy was asking.





Wikipedia seems to agree with me.

EFI did however make it's V8 debut in the VL Commodore in the evolution version of the Group A touring car homologation special

Yet they only list the 4.9L Black motor for the V8

[Hillerus]

750 out of 100,000 is hardly worth mentioning to the extent you have. He was talking about an injected 304 motor as in VN onwards, not a TTB Group A motor.


Yes there factory fitted (in HSVs factory), but 5L VLs in Exec/Berlina/Calais spec are carbys. We both know what the guy was asking.





Wikipedia seems to agree with me.

EFI did however make it's V8 debut in the VL Commodore in the evolution version of the Group A touring car homologation special

Yet they only list the 4.9L Black motor for the V8

Agreed. But again, an Injected 5l V8 was fitted to the Vl, regardless of how many were built, limited edition etc, whatever.

A Vl Commodore, in whatever guise, was fitted with an Injected V8 from the factory and made available for sale to the public. So, again, technically, the Vl had a Carbied and Injected V8 factory fitted.

[STEALTHY™]

Agreed. But again, an Injected 5l V8 was fitted to the Vl, regardless of how many were built, limited edition etc, whatever.

A Vl Commodore, in whatever guise, was fitted with an Injected V8 from the factory and made available for sale to the public. So, again, technically, the Vl had a Carbied and Injected V8 factory fitted.

No it didn't. It was fitted by Holdens Aftermarket Modifier.

Were going round in circles mate.Even the thread starter (which weve gone way off topic) was talking about run of the mill commodores from the holden factory. Not anything from HSV.

[Hillerus]

Neither of us a wrong. And I will stick by what Ive said.

[VLDavo]

lol its like ****ing contest ...

The Holden Commodore VL SS Group A SV was a vehicle developed and built FOR Holden by TWR and the newly established Holden Special Vehicles company. Released in 1988, it was BASED on the Holden Commodore VL SS. 750 examples were built, meeting the minimum requirement of 500 units necessary to allow the model to be homologated for racing under international Group A Touring Car regulations. It replaced the existing Holden Commodore VL SS Group A (which had been developed by Peter Brock's HDT Special Vehicles company} as Holden's Group A race car.

[h0Ld3n`VN]

if its like a contest why dont they google it? lol or look on the redbook site

[Cobez]

ROFL this thread is still going.


I just wanted to know whether the VN V8 onwards were 304's lol. Toot on kids!! Toot on!!

[STEALTHY™]

if its like a contest why dont they google it? lol or look on the redbook site

I already quoted things before.


Its the same with VN, can i get a commodore with a TTB motor stock? no, but i can get a HSV Group A with one.