modifying airbox

[shonky12]

hi guys, sorry to ask another question. ive been looking on google and using the search on this site. i want to know how i can fir a ef/el ford airbox in a vp v6 to replace the standard air box or modify to fit the ef/el air snorkel to the vp v6 airbox.

reason is because i want to fit a ef/el snorkel and airbox to have bigger but if i have to ill just modify the snorkel to fit the v6 airbox.

any replies will be appreciated

[SAMO-87]

You're best bet is to get a genuine Holden CAI for around $50 and fit that.
You will have to cut out the standard air box to make room for the CAI, but it's simple. Cheers

[shonky12]

i wanted to do it as cheap as possible as theres plenty oof ef/el ford snorkels around secondhand

[SAMO-87]

Ah ok. Fair enough. But I think in the end, all the hassle and modifying you will have to do, it might be worth while spending $50 on a Holden CAI.

[shonky12]

how much will a ef air snorkel cost, now much will a eb ford airbox with snorkel cost id like the rough prices for both those things secondhand and theres airboxes at the scrap yard.

will a eb ford airbox fit a dunnydore vp with mods

[shonky12]

i need answers on the following as soon as you get this as i have to leave in half hour to go to bingo.

how much will a ef air snorkel cost, now much will a eb ford airbox with snorkel cost id like the rough prices for both those things secondhand and theres airboxes at the scrap yard.

will a eb ford airbox fit a dunnydore vp with mods

[Morton]

any ford airbox will be a total waste of money. You're going to gain... well, without a cold air intake, you're going to gain nothing. I would suggest that if you're keen to modify something - go to bunnings, buy a length of fat ribbed pipe, and run it from the bottom of the standard VN/P airbox like I have:

[shonky12]

how muchs that

[shonky12]

also would a ef/el snorkel made to fit a holden airbox work

[Rishy]

take mortons advice, and why do you want to put a ford airbox in a holden?

[Cobez]

What's the big obsession with the Ford snorkel? They aren't better than the Holden ones, and will require alot of messing around to get it to fit. It's not even worth all the stuffing around you would have to go through to get the Ford airbox to fit. If you can't spend $50 on a simple CAI set up (the most basic and 1st in line of all Holden commodore mods), maybe you shouldn't be modifying your car just yet.

I did what Morton did, cept i bought a 90mm holesaw, cut through the bottom of the airbox and through the steel body, mounted 90 PVC piping so it was all sturdy with an elbow and another piece of PVC piping so it angled towards a factory hole in my VP Senator front bar, then went and bought a K&N washable pod filter and mounted that onto the piping.

Works a bloody treat too! All my airbox is sealed and i replaced the standard airbox to TB plastic pipe with a steel pipe (keeps the air slightly cooler). Try and spend a tiny bit of money on your basic mods so you get your base mods working well. If you don't want to spend $50 on a Holden CAI, then imagine what you will be like when it comes to doing bigger mods.

[Morton]

how muchs that

$15

also would a ef/el snorkel made to fit a holden airbox work

no.

[VNexecutive]

i swear i read somewhere that you were 14.. bingo!

just buy a goddamm vs cai or something.

[RVN 355]

I agree s/c over the radiator cai & k & n panel filter you will be fine.ya dont need bigger snorkle or A massive intakes for a stock v6. if ya want some serious intakes go a come racing twin throttle setup then you will have enough air that way.

If ya want A ford air box make it fit but wouldn't you even consider a v8 ls1 or vs v8 air box setup and make that work some how and keep it all gmh.

[And_ROOS]

any ford airbox will be a total waste of money. You're going to gain... well, without a cold air intake, you're going to gain nothing. I would suggest that if you're keen to modify something - go to bunnings, buy a length of fat ribbed pipe, and run it from the bottom of the standard VN/P airbox like I have:

Arent you worried about fully inhaling a puddle with that thing?

[Morton]

Nah. I've drilled a couple of small holes in the lowest point of that tube (it goes down first), so any water and rain that does go in, drains straight out the bottom. Luckily the suction on a V6 isn't powerful enough to suck water all the way up the pipe, and the advantage of using ribbed piping as opposed to PVC, is that things like water and rocks get caught on the edges and fall down.

Having said that, I have to be careful up here in Bris during the monsoon seasons. When the roads flood, I can't cross anything which would level with my intake. However, I'd probably be reluctant to enter anything that deep anywho

[And_ROOS]

Does Mr Officer have an issue with it?

[Blown V6 Hatch]

All you need to do with a set up like that, is put a hole in the lower airbox itself so that the engine can still suck air through that hole if the bumper intake does happen to get a gulpful of water. Being that water is heavier than air, it will always suck through the airhole at the top rather than sucking up the water....problem sloved!

Edit: Being that there is no bodywork/structual mods to fit it, mr plod cant do a thing about it!

[Morton]

Does Mr Officer have an issue with it?

Not that I know of

All you need to do with a set up like that, is put a hole in the lower airbox itself so that the engine can still suck air through that hole if the bumper intake does happen to get a gulpful of water. Being that water is heavier than air, it will always suck through the airhole at the top rather than sucking up the water....problem sloved!

It's an idea, I think the standard airbox has a small hole in the bottom anyway, but I'm reluctant to enlarge anything in there... the bigger any hole in the airbox itself, the more hot air I suck in. 100% sealed bumper CAI = powah on cold nights. But you're right, that would work.

[Blown V6 Hatch]

Well, thats the way my car is set up and never had any water issues. All you need is a small hole in the front towards the headlight.

[Emackulation]

All you need to do with a set up like that, is put a hole in the lower airbox itself so that the engine can still suck air through that hole if the bumper intake does happen to get a gulpful of water. Being that water is heavier than air, it will always suck through the airhole at the top rather than sucking up the water....problem sloved!

Edit: Being that there is no bodywork/structual mods to fit it, mr plod cant do a thing about it!

Precisely right! Its just like trying to drink a popper with a straw that has a hole in the bendy part, you cant get any juice.

P.S. Did you do this before I did mine morton? Ive still gotta hook mine up into the airbox LOL.

[And_ROOS]

How much does it impact on a hot day. Sure enough on a cold day it would be all well and good but in the heat is where i wonder if it badly affects performance sucking in hot air?

[Emackulation]

Hot air effects the power quite a bit. So, you want the coolest air at all times posible!

[Blown V6 Hatch]

No matter where you put a CAI of any sort, hot air will still affect performance....There is no fix for a hot day unfortunately! However, if you position the CAI completely out of the engine bay, you have the best possible chance of drawing the coolest air possible even on a hot day.

[savage1987]

How much does it impact on a hot day. Sure enough on a cold day it would be all well and good but in the heat is where i wonder if it badly affects performance sucking in hot air?

haha you think on a hot day the air in your engine bay will be cooler than what's in front of the car? Please tell me I interpreted your post wrong

Sam