Just KILLED another L3 Dash

[88GreenVN]

OK now I'm realy peeved. After converting the new green sedan to A L3 dash and got that all working (Brown wires moved to the wrong slot in Connector 1) I go to put the Wagon dash (used in the sedan while I got the sedan working) back in the wagon and TDE = 0 and no fuel gauge again.

WHAT's the go here Why? I have not changed the wires in the wagon. Can the PCB just die like that? I've tried 3 trip computers in it with no change. Low fuel light comes on and fuel gauge does not move.

AND if I put the dash back into the sedan it works.

Put the dash from the sedan in the wagon and no workies either.

Time for something to drink

[88GreenVN]

Anyone help with the DTE = 0 bit.

[88GreenVN]

Can this part be different between models?

[wrx884]

Do u know if the VN clusters r the same as VP i got a couple clusters with me and i think 1 is from a VR so i got somthing that might help but not if the VNs dont have the PCB covering on the back of the clusters?

[88GreenVN]

L3 Clusters from VN VP VR VS all look the same. But VR/VS wont work in a VN.

I'm trying to work out why I get DTE = 0 in 1 VN and 100km DTE in the other VN with the same cluster. The PCB looks the same and have the same numbers on them.

It's got me buggered as to why it wont work. Cant find what is the difference between them.

[DanVN]

my moneys on a broken track or solder somewhere, thats what i put mine down too scrapped the cluster and bought a new one =)

[88GreenVN]

Thats what I was thinking - I've killed it - but then it works in the other car. The wagon has a 89 Calais loom in it. The green sedan has the L3 wires grafted into it.

I've missed something somewhere. Swapped the wrong bit or something. Done something stupid...

[wrx884]

i thought they were the same across models and alot of ppl have said it 2 but wen u say they r the same numbers do u mean every single pin and writing r the same? i'll post up my connectors n tell me if urs reads the same

[wrx884]

Edit: hmmm it didnt work wat i wanted 2 pm me ur email and i'll send it via email coz i got it there already

[88GreenVN]

i thought they were the same across models and alot of ppl have said it 2 but wen u say they r the same numbers do u mean every single pin and writing r the same? i'll post up my connectors n tell me if urs reads the same

The PCB numbers are the same on both clusters & connectors

[azkwazere]

The wiring is differnt between the VN's and VP;s the cluster swap isnt as easy in the VP...

Not that its fuel related though...

Hard to diagnose without the car, have you changed fuel tank sizes?

aZk.

[burnz]

check the colour code's of the wireing plug maybe two are reversed, making the fuel gauge go in
opposit direction

[88GreenVN]

The wiring is differnt between the VN's and VP;s the cluster swap isnt as easy in the VP...

Not that its fuel related though...

Hard to diagnose without the car, have you changed fuel tank sizes?

aZk.

Nope no fuel tank change. Just pulled the cluster out of the wagon to get the new green sedan going (when the brown wires were in the wrong spot). Got the sedan sorted out and whet to put the cluster back in the wagon and TDE = 0.

I've looked at the C1 plug in the wagon and the brown wires are in the correct spot.

I give up for now and will get a new cluster and see if that fixes it.

[ScoHar]

This may sound strange, but something worth having a look at, After i did my audio install my LVL 3 cluster was doing the same, fuel light on gauge out of wack and 700+ kms on my DTE, then next time starting it up went full gauge 0=DTE and fuel light on.

I traced it to where I bolted my sub in the boot I had drilled through the wires. Not sure if you'd make a dumb mistake like I did but worth a look.

[Zuicider]

i have sum clusters lvl 3 in bits if u need any parts. that module u showed from behind the dials are different on v8's than to v6's different part codes

[Zuicider]

if you need to contact me my msn is zuicider@msn.com im hardly on this site anymore

[88GreenVN]

This may sound strange, but something worth having a look at, After i did my audio install my LVL 3 cluster was doing the same, fuel light on gauge out of wack and 700+ kms on my DTE, then next time starting it up went full gauge 0=DTE and fuel light on.

I traced it to where I bolted my sub in the boot I had drilled through the wires. Not sure if you'd make a dumb mistake like I did but worth a look.

I didn't do any drilling.... But the chasis man took the tank out!!!

Maybe he messed with the wires a bit. OR MELTED SOME

That could be it!!

[88GreenVN]

OK tested a L2 dash in the wagon and temp gauge works fine but no fuel signal. Took the trip computer out of the L3 cluster and just plugged that into C4 and it shows 610 DTE. So it must be the sender unit or the wire from the sender unit to the Dash. So tonight I'll run a test wire to the sender unit to see if I can get some life.

Thinking here why dont I try the diagnostic mode in the L3. Hmmm should have done this first..... What a wally.

[88GreenVN]

Car is now fixed with fuel gauge working and TDE not = 610.

It was the wire between the sender unit and the back door. I ran a wire from the sender unit up through the bolt hole for the baby capsule mount and spliced it into the loom (tan wire)

Looks like the wire was cut while the car was being repaired.

Had I not played with the cluster in the first place........

[novice vp]

Anyone help with the DTE = 0 bit.

I have l3 vp dash it the one with the digital read out at the bottom what do I have to do to get the digital part to work properly before I had the other dash all needle and I know that instead of the left blinker it flashes push remote but that should be easy to fix and I also have v8 l3 dash out of a vp I was toldplease answer my question if you can

[88GreenVN]

I have l3 vp dash it the one with the digital read out at the bottom what do I have to do to get the digital part to work properly before I had the other dash all needle and I know that instead of the left blinker it flashes push remote but that should be easy to fix and I also have v8 l3 dash out of a vp I was toldplease answer my question if you can

If the left flasher is going to the Press Remote - you have the wrong dash cluster for your car.

To correct this you will need to find the left flasher wire in the (1 of 3 plugs behind the dash) and mate it to the cluster.

You cant just swap the front cover over (lens) and hope it will work. On the PCB you will have the 4 connector pin outs number 1.2.3. and so on.

You should have 1 below marked in BOLD.

This is a list of Calais/Statesman/Caprice Cluster part numbers

For VN, VP, VQ

VN
92033603, V6, P.O. UA6 EXPORT
92038148, V6
92035022, V8, EXC P.O. UA6, EXPORT
92038149, V8, UA6, EXC EXPORT

VP
92038533, V6
92038539, V8
VQ
92038148, V6, SER I
92038533, V6, SER II
92038149, V8, SER I
92038539, V8, SER II
92033606, V6, EXPORT
92035024, V8, EXPORT