hey everyone..ive got a '90 VN 3.8 & the only performance mod atm is a 2.5'' catback exhaust from redback, (theres heaps of visual things done) and im debating about wheather or not to get some pacemaker headders installed in it. Is it worth it on the v6? how much of a difference in the sound would there be?
thanks
People have this misconception that extractors change the sound. They do to an extent, but it's very hard to tell. A V8 with tuned length extractors makes a noticeable difference, but on a V6 you would be hard pressed to tell the difference.
The advantage is in how it drives. Extractors will even out the torque and make the gear changes smoother. They will improve acceleration and also give you better highway economy.
You probably noticed that you lost a bit of bottom end after the exhaust was fitted, if you fitted it rather than buying the car with it already on there. Extractors will gain a bit back.
When i installed my Pacemaker extractors i couldnt notice much of a difference but it did change the note a fair bit, sounds more grunty and not so much of a constant groan, best thing to do is you already have the exhaust so pacemakers CAI, and tune. to start with.
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All depends on how much you're going to be paying for the Pacies. On a V6, I tend to think there are MANY mods you can do, before Pacemakers become the best bang for your buck.
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i got everything else before the pacemakers, i paid $150 second hand in great condition and it came with a Cat, if it just has the exhaust atm just get a good CAI on it like morton did with his.
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CAI is the best bang for your buck, so long as you can rig one up for less than $20![]()
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I found my VS S/C CAI in the boot of my car so i was lucky, but thinking of changing to something simular to what you have done.
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Hehe yup, you can't beat having to clean out your airbox every week ^_^
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make a wire mesh & clean/replace your filters less... but that would disturb air flow & loose 6.5 kilowatts.
A chip off greenfoam is the best bang for your buck, pacemakers are noticeable mainly at higher speeds (80+) i found in the v6. did change the note but not a helluva lot.
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Mesh, psh, waste of time and effort. You still have to clean the airbox in the end.
When I put header on my V6 It felt more lively right from take off (I suppose I did a full exhaust with the headers).
Yeah, it's the dust that gets my filter clogged upDamn roadworks all over Brisbane. ^_^
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even when i had just the pipe going to the pod it didnt get that dirty, maybe a leaf or 2... i dont know where you guys drive but i stick to the road!
I got my stock Auto V6 down from around 7.6 seconds 0-60 time to around 7.1 seconds with exhaust and T5 conversion. The exhaust mod included pacemaker PH-5029 headers and a redback 2.5" Catback. This was done not as an end in itself but more in preparation for the blower. The exhaust note did change considerably, but I think this had more to do with the catback system rather than the headers.
There was definitely a performance gain from the headers and the catback system and I feel it was fairly considerable.
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thanks for the replies every1, i think i might get some other, less expensive mods for it atm if its not going 2 make it any louder, or i might save for another couple of months & get a VY
i just really love my vn lol
I Have the same setup on my car now that what your are thinking of, redback 2.5" and pacemaker extractors, what i noticed was there's definatly a sound change, it sound a bit nicer and gruntier, and is louder particulary in 2nd gear its rather loud,doesnt idol alot louder depends how you drive it i suppose. Performance wise, it's an improvement for sure, perhaps not as much as you might hope, it seems to pull alot better especially at higher speed. And in first, if i go full throttle i struggle to get traction, and thats with 245, 19's. if you are to keep your car with the 6 id definatly get extractors at some stage![]()
yea ive seen a few of the 6's with pacemakers and theres a notible difference in the sound they produce, but ive decided 2 just leave it and save for a VY, it will only take me a month or so because i started a while ago
thanks 4 the answers every1![]()