New VY S Wheels fitment

[WisdomFist]

Hi Guys,

I ahve two stupid questions before I fit my new whels to my VN tomorrow.

1. Do i need aftermarket wheel lugs or can I use the ones already on the standard rimms. I thought I needed new lugs but the guy i got them off mentioned I could use the original wheel nuts. ???

2. I ahve read people have had problems with the center cap fitting, what are the prroblems with this and how do we get around it.

Any other suggestions or advise that might be of interest is welcom.

Thanks,

[Keesh]

if they are genuine wheels, only genuine centre caps will fit, aftermarket wheels use smaller caps to avoid getting suid.

you should use wheel nuts with tapered ends so that they dont cut into the rims i doubt the wheel nuts on the vn are the factory ones anyway

if you have any doubts about nuts maybe see you holden dealer for wheel nuts, be warned there about $3.80ea for an open ended nut

[WisdomFist]

Thanks Keesh,

The wheels are genuine, I had heard that the genuine wheels had trouble with the center caps fitting flush on a vn. Is this true?

I might just pick up some lug and lock nuts to suit when I get a chance anyway.

[WisdomFist]

So I guess my question is are the tapered lug nuts just for looks or are the necessary to fit these wheels.
I want to know do i need to buy them or can i use the nuts on the standard wheels?

Thanks

[Keesh]

tapered on the inside yes because normal nuts tend to chew the rim

you want nuts where the inside looks like these http://www.agradepanels.com.au/tyres_wheels/nuts_1.jpg

open or closed end and colour is up to you just make sure you get ones to suit the right car

the reason they say centre caps dont fit on vn is because the grease caps on the front hub pokes out a little, i havnt ever had a drama with them so i doubt you will, if so just take the grease caps off

[georgeonboost]

when i put my 17" internationals on my vp i had to remove the dust/grease cap AND put a 3mm spacer on the front so the centre caps would fit on.

-George

[AirStrike]

when i put my 17" internationals on my vp i had to remove the dust/grease cap AND put a 3mm spacer on the front so the centre caps would fit on.

-George

As I have said, you are the only person I know who has had to do this. Removing the dust cap will give more then enough room. I have done it on 4 VN/VP's.

[Keesh]

yer ive never had to do this.. did you take the centre caps off first and then fit them?

[HAZZA-VN]

As I have said, you are the only person I know who has had to do this. Removing the dust cap will give more then enough room. I have done it on 4 VN/VP's.

My Dads mate couldn't have the center cap with internationals on his vn.

My mate has VY R8 18" wheels and he cant get the front caps on

[AirStrike]

My Dads mate couldn't have the center cap with internationals on his vn.

My mate has VY R8 18" wheels and he cant get the front caps on

You must not of read my post. They fit ONLY if you either modify the back of the center cap or take the dust cover off.

[WisdomFist]

Thanks for all the assistance guys,

I thought that was the case I just wanted to ckeck. I chucked the rimms on last night with no problems. The dust caps were a tight fit, but i took a hammer and flatened them out a little bit.

Here are some pics, now it really need to be lowered. am etting the superlows in the next week or so. Should look good then!

It's hard to beleive this car owes me about $400 all up (including purchase price) untill now.

Here is the before shot




Here are the after shots




Last shot is it all done checking tire pressure at the servo.



Will keep you update on the next few mods, I am going to fit the CAI today, it looks like the aire box has to be modified and the inlet inlargened for the cai to fit in. Is this usual?

Thanks,

[TVR-190]

yes, i assume you got a vs sc CAI, if so the bos will need to be cut to make way for the bigger inlet, shouldnt be too hard to achieve, if your not competent you can always get one from holden that is pre cut.

[WisdomFist]

yes, i assume you got a vs sc CAI, if so the bos will need to be cut to make way for the bigger inlet, shouldnt be too hard to achieve, if your not competent you can always get one from holden that is pre cut.

Hi Troy,

Thanks mate. I'll break out the dremmel as soon as it stops raining!

Cheers

[savage1987]

Some will have clearance problems with the front grease caps, some won't. Mate's VSIII stato wheels had that problem, my VT SS 17s, VY SS 17s and Starcorp 19s have not had any issues.

Should also point out that you're not allowed to take those grease caps off permanently, they are required by law to prevent **** getting in there and prematurely wearing out your wheel bearings.

edit: just read the thread further.. looks good with those wheels mate, better than I thought it would You did the right thing with the grease caps too - that was probably the best option.

[AirStrike]

Some will have clearance problems with the front grease caps, some won't. Mate's VSIII stato wheels had that problem, my VT SS 17s, VY SS 17s and Starcorp 19s have not had any issues.

Should also point out that you're not allowed to take those grease caps off permanently, they are required by law to prevent **** getting in there and prematurely wearing out your wheel bearings.

edit: just read the thread further.. looks good with those wheels mate, better than I thought it would You did the right thing with the grease caps too - that was probably the best option.

This issue is more so with HSV center caps, the Holden ones are different. Also I doubt that it is illigal to not have dust caps on.......

[savage1987]

Terribly sorry but it is, I had one missing and was told on numerous occasions that they MUST be fitted. Probably no damage will result but just a word of warning.

I haven't had any HSV centre caps but the VS3 stato wheels had those big clip-on dress caps over the entire wheel nut area, they wouldn't clip on. So my point stands, some wheels you'll have trouble with, some wheels you won't. The only way to really tell is to try them and find out.

[VNHeartache]

Put VZ 16" wheels on mine - dust caps bent the wheel centre caps a bit and they're tight but they fit. I concur with savage1987 that you HAVE to leave the bearing dust caps on, it's a safety issue to keep the wheel bearings protected.

[savage1987]

yay someone knows.

[AirStrike]

yay someone knows.

On a car running stockies I would say yeah for sure, but the center cap covers the bearing any way so nothing is getting in there.

[savage1987]

Depends on the style of the wheel. Also what's to stop **** getting in there when you pull the wheels off?

[PaRaDoX]

Thanks for all the assistance guys,




Here are the after shots




Last shot is it all done checking tire pressure at the servo.



Will keep you update on the next few mods, I am going to fit the CAI today, it looks like the aire box has to be modified and the inlet inlargened for the cai to fit in. Is this usual?

Thanks,

WOW, how does it go on the water? i bet you could sail round the world on it!

i suggest some lowered springs next :P

[AirStrike]

Depends on the style of the wheel. Also what's to stop **** getting in there when you pull the wheels off?

How often do you take the wheels off? What do you mean depends on the style of wheel? Find me a rim, holden or aftermarket, with an exposed bearing.

[savage1987]

I was talking more about spacers and aftermarket rims, plus I've fitted some dodgy fkn thailand 19s or some **** that didn't sit 100% flush with the hub (sat flush around the wheel studs but gaps in between) so yeah they do exist although they really shouldn't.

And regardless how many times your wheels are off (which mine are quite regularly) there's an opportunity to get **** in there

Didn't mean to start an argument mate, you seem to do this a lot. Just a thought.

[wrx884]

I was talking more about spacers and aftermarket rims, plus I've fitted some dodgy fkn thailand 19s or some **** that didn't sit 100% flush with the hub (sat flush around the wheel studs but gaps in between) so yeah they do exist although they really shouldn't.

And regardless how many times your wheels are off (which mine are quite regularly) there's an opportunity to get **** in there

Didn't mean to start an argument mate, you seem to do this a lot. Just a thought.

R u talkin about those center hub locators that nearly most after maker rims dont supply u with? with out those ud get dirt in there 4 sure and u'll also get bad vibrations.

[savage1987]

Yep they're the ones.. Called central locators or something like that. Pretty much just a little ring of metal to match the rim to the hub so it doesn't wobble around while you do the nuts up.