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    can i use a VS strut with a VP bearing plate along with VS rack and lower control arms on a VP

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    im about to do this on my VN. ill let u know how i go

    would need the strut and vr/vs hub assembly. VP rack should bolt up to the hub.

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    did you know that the VR /VS lower control arms are longer then the VN / VP so if you do go the lower control arms you will need the longer tie rod ends or in my case the whole rack as my low pressure bypass valving has has it

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    i think the only problem you would have is the top bearing plate ...as the vr/vs strut is larger where the thread for the top nut is.

    you would need the lower control arm with ball joint (as ball joint is different then the vn/vp type)....hub.......strut and maybe a few other things

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    i've been looking into this conversion for a while and it's not as simple as it seems at first. the VR/VS has a wider wheel track to using the VR/VS control arms will mean the wheels stick out of the gaurds on the VN/VP. you will need to use the VS steering rack also a mentioned earlier (or fit the VR/VS longer rack ends to your steering rack). they use different balljoints so it's not a simple swap either. you could redrill the mounting points in the K frame (and use the VS control arms) but then you would need to shorten the steering rack or you will suffer badly from bumpsteer. the top is actually fairly simple. use K-mac adjustable tophats that are for the later VT/VX models. K-mac made these so that after you remove the factory mount on the later model cars you then drill 3 holes (exactly like the VB-VP setup) to mount the top bearing plate. using these with the VR/VS strut it should bolt straight into the VP strut tower.

    your best solution would be to find someone at a automotive parts dealer and see if there is a alternate balljoint avaialble (from some other make and model) that has the same "press in" fitting as the VN/VP control arms but the same stud as the VR/VS. one other thing you could look at is that i think from VT they changed the strut again to a taper balljoint setup much like the earlier VN/VP's maybe this would be the ideal strut to use?

    i haven't yet finished this project as i ahve to many other things going on as well. any info you can gather further to what i've already posted would be much appreciated
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    Quote Originally Posted by [TOPGEAR] View Post
    there was a guy a few years ago done the conversion on a VH.
    it would be simple if you don't mind pumping out the gaurds for the wider wheel track. there are many advantages to running the later style of strut setup
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    only reason i wanna do it is cause i have coilovers out of a VR sitting here and balljoints are **** lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowVp View Post
    why not use the VP strut inserts in the VS struts
    vr onwards you can not change the inserts as they come as a complete assembly.

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    ok but do the lower control arms for a VS bolt directly in the same spot as the VP ones?

    i mean i know they are longer but do they bolt directly into the same spot in the K frame as the VP ones.

    now if i use the K-mac adjustable tophats with the VS struts, steering knuckle, rack and control arms that would push the wheels out further, all i would have to do is put VS guards on and it would all be legal wouldnt it?

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    yep, they bolt in the same place as the earlier models. i guess with the VS gaurds it would be legal..ish. would need to get it certified for the wider wheel track
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