Turbo/Supercharged SV3800

[VNSV38]

Hi guys,
I think I'm about to run into a bit of money, and will have about $5k to spend.
First up, im going to minispool my dolomite sprint, get custom bilstein shocks, and possibly roll-cage it, so all that will set me back around $2k i reckon.
After that, I was going to S/C the VN, but I've started thinking that turbo might be the way to go.
It's about $5k for a raptor S/c set-up, how much do you reckon a turbo set-up will cost me, and are there any kits hanging around for it?
Also, does anyone know anyone who can install a mini-spool from a vl into a non borg-warner diff? It might need a bit of the old hacksaw fabrication.
I'd love your thoughts and ideas.
Cheers,
Aled

[TUF UTE]

budget 5k for the v6 turbo if your doing it semi proper

[VNSV38]

budget 5k for the v6 turbo if your doing it semi proper

how about if i didnt want to do it semi proper?
could i get it to a $2.5k-3k budget?

[TUF UTE]

then expect it to fail immensely

[stocky]

can always buy my supercharger kit for a lot less than a raptor setup

[VNSV38]

then expect it to fail immensely

haha good point.
do you know anywhere good in melbourne that can do it for me?

[Joey_21]

roll cage will set u back anywhere from 800-2000 by itself u need at least 6-9k to do it properly doing some work urself might save u some cash but if u dont do it properly expect 2 pay big bucks when ur engine blows .

[VNSV38]

can always buy my supercharger kit for a lot less than a raptor setup

might not be a bad plan

[Morton]

It's an excellent plan, and I can tell you first hand that stocky's supercharger setup pulled some serious power ^_^

[89 vn]

What S/C was that? sc-14? never heard anything good about them really ive heard they only make just over 150kw at the motor on a vn. because they were designed for a 1.4 litre engine not 3.8 or more

[stocky]

What S/C was that? sc-14? never heard anything good about them really ive heard they only make just over 150kw at the motor on a vn. because they were designed for a 1.4 litre engine not 3.8 or more

god damn it. im sick of saying the same **** over and over again. they make plenty of power. the charger is pretty much the same size as the one on the l67, and with a proper setup, are good for 200rwkw on a v6, a 12 second quarter mile, and plenty of low down torque to light up both rear 235 wide tyres in an instant without touching the brake pedal.

[VT-565]

roll cage will set u back anywhere from 800-2000 by itself u need at least 6-9k to do it properly doing some work urself might save u some cash but if u dont do it properly expect 2 pay big bucks when ur engine blows .

Is it just me or is this one of the most confusing posts ever written by anyone?

800-2000 for a cage? do you know what you're talking about?
Is this fitted or buy only? My 4 year old son has better english skills.

[89 vn]

Just not from what Ive heard, from credible sources sc-14 sux no need to get defensive.
I got a Street Commodore magazine with a guy asking if a SC-14 is any good and they replied that it aint very good and you will want more power almost right away and has tiny PSI like 3 or something, only decent power can be made with 2 sc-14's

Maybe everyone says the same thing cos they are ****
I think they said on a buick v6 it would make 150kw at the motor from 125 thats bad. Ill find the magazine

[stocky]

Just not from what Ive heard, from credible sources sc-14 sux no need to get defensive.
I got a Street Commodore magazine with a guy asking if a SC-14 is any good and they replied that it aint very good and you will want more power almost right away and has tiny PSI like 3 or something, only decent power can be made with 2 sc-14's

Maybe everyone says the same thing cos they are ****
I think they said on a buick v6 it would make 150kw at the motor from 125 thats bad. Ill find the magazine

what credible sources? oh a guy on SC magazine. yeah, never mind all the dyno charts, 1/4 mile slips from people that have actually built a car with one. no, ignore them. lets go with a bit of text in a magazine from a guy that probably has as much knowledge as you. 200rwkw is decent power, especially for a v6, and its easy to achieve that with a home made sc14 setup. and they can run up to 12psi fine, not 3. everyone says the same thing because they all listen to the same people you do, that have no idea what theyre talking about, cause they have no experience with them. and yeah, i will get defensive, because im sick of seeing bull**** spread across these forums because people dont bother doing research, and just spread the same misleading information to other people.

150kw at the engine? yeah. on a 3 psi setup maybe, and even then, thats a good power rating for a charger that costs a couple of hundred dollars, or maybe 900 if you find a full kit. people spend the same amount on an exhaust and would get less power than that. get 12 psi going, and youd have over 250kw at the engine if you do everything right

[VN_Luke]

Just not from what Ive heard, from credible sources sc-14 sux no need to get defensive.
I got a Street Commodore magazine with a guy asking if a SC-14 is any good and they replied that it aint very good and you will want more power almost right away and has tiny PSI like 3 or something, only decent power can be made with 2 sc-14's

Maybe everyone says the same thing cos they are ****
I think they said on a buick v6 it would make 150kw at the motor from 125 thats bad. Ill find the magazine

A stock SC-14 CRS kit is pretty crappy - no doubt about it. No tune, 3psi etc. - wouldn't make much power at all really - especially because it's running lean as and just asking for a blown motor!

Stocky's kit is a 10psi, intercooled kit with a tune! ... which is a fair bit away from the crummy CRS setup.

To give you an example, my manual VP with a very similar kit would happily keep both rear wheels torched in 3rd gear in the dry (on the brake), and has upset a few new LS1 SS and HSV owners!

Ran a 14.0 at calder with no 4th gear - easy potential for mid-high 13's.

IBLOWN on this forum has run a 12.90 with his sc14 setup!

Realistically - without some radical modification, that's probably about as fast as they get! But if you know what you're doing, or are willing to learn, I still personally believe it's the best value for money option you can go with for a stock v6 - if you're not looking to go faster than a 13 ... and if you don't think a 13 sec pass is 'fast' for a daily driven street car... you've probably never driven one, or have something crazy in the garage!

Oh and another thing worth mentioning - is that because these setups make so much torque down low in the revs - you don't have to hammer your motor and rev the tits off it to make good power - which is always a bonus for reliability!


Having said all that - if you ever want to run faster than a 13, there's more cost-effective solutions!

[stocky]

and we had the old style crs kits. the new ones come with the throttle body in front of the blower, so theyre even better than the ones people always talk about, and much quieter

[VN_Luke]

and we had the old style crs kits. the new ones come with the throttle body in front of the blower, so theyre even better than the ones people always talk about, and much quieter

excuse me? - speak up, I have been physically abused in DA EARS.

[Morton]

Oh god yes. I know what you mean, Luke. Small children would start to cry up to five minutes before stocky arrived at a Krispy's meet on Friday night. You could have sworn a light aircraft was coming in to land on Narre-Cranbourne Road.

Stocky and VN_Luke, some good input and info back there. Rep added.

[stocky]

too bad you didnt hear it with the throttle moved. some of the narre meetup guys didnt believe i had the charger under the bonnet

[Morton]

And I don't blame them. Half the time you didn't have the charger on there, because you were too busy being defected

[stocky]

bah. that only happened twice in like 2 years, and i bet it wouldnt happen very often if i drove it around with the quiet setup. even had the cooler painted black to be nice and stealth

[stocky]

and the fun continues. another person posted in the SC forum feedback section saying that the sc14 article in the magazine is bull****. now im joined into the debate and arguing with 2 of the mods over there that are trying to defend their article. dont forget that they wouldnt want to annoy their sponser raptor.
just shows that you shouldnt believe everything that someone writes in a magazine

[Morton]

bahahaha, oh sigh. I love you SC... it's like the retarded old ex-con uncle of Commodore clubs.

[vn calais manual]

when some decent manifolds become availible for the bucik v6 turbo would be a pretty good option .

i myself went the sc14 path, lots of low down torque, and stupidly cheap power. with the right mods 200rwkw is doable from the v6 with the sc14, its been proved.

[stocky]

when some decent manifolds become availible for the bucik v6 turbo would be a pretty good option .

i myself went the sc14 path, lots of low down torque, and stupidly cheap power. with the right mods 200rwkw is doable from the v6 with the sc14, its been proved.

join me on the SC forum in the feedback section to help prove that