supa 6 or 5L

[SUSVN]

ok so im toying with the idea of a new motor, ive got a couple options floating around atm
1st: normal ecotec conversion (series 1 vs motor)
2nd: standard eco with a getrag box
3rd: fav atm, supa 6 with either my T5 or a getrag behind it and change the pulley to put out about 14psi
4th: 5L conversion with a new T5 to suit the v8

if anyone has any info preferably the 3rd option that would be great, also open to suggestions and critisism

[TVR-190]

go the super 6, there will be heaps that say v8 but the super 6's are sweet

[SUSVN]

yeh im realy leaning towards the supa 6, just need find out if my t5 will bolt up to it aswell

[VT-565]

go the super 6, there will be heaps that say v8 but the super 6's are sweet

V8.




lol


Thought about an LS1?

I guess depending on where you are, age etc...you have to think about (conversion engineering approval!) rego, insurance and running costs....THEN think about what you want to do with it in the future. If you are planning on going balls-out with it, then I highly recommend you investigate the LS1.

[STEALTHY™]

Stock for stock, in the same body, a super6 will be quicker than a 5L. Nothing beats the sound of a 5L, NOTHING!

[SUSVN]

its hard enough for me to get insurance now cos no one wants to touch an under 25 with a modified car, i would go ls1 but the sheer cos of the motor, gear box and all the custom work to fit it, then engineering it and the cost to run it out weighs it, apprentice wages arent that great. also i want something that i can stick to the v8s and say hello with. to do the super 6 conversion would be easier, ive allready up graded brakes and suspension and it would only have to go over the pits as its fitted with a super charger (mabey) mite be able to get away with it as it is a factory holden engine

[SUSVN]

Stock for stock, in the same body, a super6 will be quicker than a 5L. Nothing beats the sound of a 5L, NOTHING!

yeh its had for me to choose between the super 6 and a cammed 5L as i just love the roar of a 5L

[STEALTHY™]

yeh its had for me to choose between the super 6 and a cammed 5L as i just love the roar of a 5L

well choose. Sound, or power?

[SUSVN]

well choose. Sound, or power?

with the right exhaust sound comes with power, but i think ill go super 6

[VT-565]

Your mind is made up then.
Post pics when you're finished

[STEALTHY™]

with the right exhaust sound comes with power, but i think ill go super 6

No V6 can ever sound like a V8. EVER. My mate V6 was the best sounding V6 i've heard, but even he said its nothing on my stock 5L motor.

[VT-565]

No V6 can ever sound like a V8. EVER. My mate V6 was the best sounding V6 i've heard, but even he said its nothing on my stock 5L motor.

Agreed. Well, with the stock firing order anyway. Apparently there was a Jag V6 with a firing order which made it sound similar to an 8, but it simply isn't one, so why try or even bother?

It's like having a cat and saying....
"Ohhhh.....I wish it would bark like my mates staffy....."

Simple. Feed your cat to the staffy and get one yourself.

[STEALTHY™]

Agreed. Well, with the stock firing order anyway. Apparently there was a Jag V6 with a firing order which made it sound similar to an 8, but it simply isn't one, so why try or even bother?

It's like having a cat and saying....
"Ohhhh.....I wish it would bark like my mates staffy....."

Simple. Feed your cat to the staffy and get one yourself.

Keep in mind a straight 6 has a completely different sound to a V6.

[SUSVN]

Your mind is made up then.
Post pics when you're finished

may take a while but ill get id done and when i do ill put them up

[SUSVN]

yeh i know nothing will ever beat the sound of a v8

[h0Ld3n`VN]

go for supercharged to many people are doing 5ltr conversions :P

[SUSVN]

yeh thats why i was going to do the super 6 but ive changed my mind with the help of stealthy and im gonna drop a cammed 5L in, allready had the 5L sourced for a few weeks, not just need to find lumpy cam, intake manifold, sump, k-frame and T5 to suit with tail shaft and 3in exhaust

[greenfoam]

Stock for stock there's little if any difference between the motors and with 10 psi on the super 6 and an exhaust and tune on the 5 litre theres still almost no difference, perhaps the super 6 a tenth of a second quicker. But since you wont have to change gearboxes with the super 6 that might be your cheapest option. I'd choose the 5 litre only because it's a higher quality item

[STEALTHY™]

Oh, i was comparing my stock 5L, vs a Super6 VN Calais (so both should weigh about the same).


And yes, i showed my my burnout vid. No V6 can sound like that.

[SUSVN]

Stock for stock there's little if any difference between the motors and with 10 psi on the super 6 and an exhaust and tune on the 5 litre theres still almost no difference, perhaps the super 6 a tenth of a second quicker. But since you wont have to change gearboxes with the super 6 that might be your cheapest option. I'd choose the 5 litre only because it's a higher quality item

so i can use my T5 on a super 6?? well now my mind is in limbo, i mite have to get a second vn

[STEALTHY™]

You just need a different bellhousing, and possibly different input shaft, not sure on that tho.

[SUSVN]

i know its a different bellhousing and input shaft needed for the 5L id just be worried about the strength of the internals, well im still leaning alot towards the cammed 5L so it seems that is the way ill go

[STEALTHY™]

They produce similar torque, so you should be worried with either conversion.

[SUSVN]

ill decide on motor first then rebuild the box with stronger internals

[STEALTHY™]

For the cost of rebuilding the T5, it'd probably be cheaper to go with a T56.

Think a gearset was $3000 on its own. PPG might make one now which would be cheaper.