Pod Filter Location?

[Friction]

I know a lot of members here don't like the pod filters, but I can't afford a good air cleaner so I just went with a pod filter for now. I have been running it for a week in the normal position where the air box usually connects to the intake pipe. But my question is, is there any advantages/disadvantages to having the pod filter connected straight up to the breather like in my pic below?

I know it will be sucking more hot air as it is being closer to the engine, but having it connected straight up to the breather would lessen the amount of time that the air has to get there compared to when connected to the whole intake pipe.

[stocky]

wouldve been better off leaving the standard intake on it

[Friction]

What advantages are there in doing so?

[STEALTHY™]

Whats the deal with everyone posting identical topics on SC and JC.


Pods are only effective in an enclosed box, since you are poor, thats probably not something you should be purchasing! Get a panel filter, and use the standard holden setup

[Friction]

Telling me to do something without any pros and cons on why is not helping me at all mate.

I posted the same question on multiple forums so that I can get a thorough answer as quickly as possible from as many different sources as possible. I don't see a problem.

[STEALTHY™]

The problem is, if you had searched, you would have found 100 pod vs panel filter threads, which would have allllllll the info you could ever need to make a sensible choice!

[Friction]

I did that before purchasing the pod filter and what I determined was that a pod filter vs a stock airbox and air cleaner, the pod filter had better air intake. But I also determined that a decent air cleaner like a Air Hog or K&N would be better than the pod. At the time all I could afford was the pod filter, and now all I want to know is which is the best position for it?

If my determinations were wrong, then my bad!

[H1GHROLLR]

pod filters are nasty . . . . yuck to pod filters put them back on 4 bangers

[STEALTHY™]

Best position, as i mentioned, is in an enclosed box.

Atm its just sucking in hot air.



Standard holden airbox, with a KnN filter and holder CAI is the best option!

[Morton]

The best place for the pod filter is in the bin. End of discussion. You'll get better performance out of a $10 Ryco filter in the standard air box.

[Friction]

I have decided to go a cheap Ryco filter for the airbox and take the pod off.

Thanks everyone for your contributions.

[Fu Manchu]

A new paper filter is going to out perform a pod filter. When new, the paper filters will out do the KnN filters. If you are poor you just spent money to make your car perform worse. The air in that part of the engine bay will be very hot, it's right over the headers. The amount of time it takes to get there is like measuring bees dicks. Yeah it is different but by how much and it makes bugger all difference for what it is worth.
You can get a pod filter air box through yella terra I'm pretty sure. That way you will keep the car legal.

Pod filters make your car sound like a vacuum cleaner.

[TUF UTE]

with the buick motor though ...what does it matter the temp of the air its sucking if it doesnt have a air flow meter.

im tired tonight and asking rather noobish shit lol

[greenfoam]

Cold air is much denser than hot air. You know how you get a empty plastic bottle in the sun and it expands, or how flat ballon pumps up again when it gets hot. So less hot air can fit into a certain space compared to cold air. Less air to burn means less energy produced which means less horsepower. You can work out how much power hot intake temps cost you here

Engine Tuning Calculator - dew point

[TUF UTE]

only reason i bring this up is on the dyno, we tried different places for mounting a pod in a navara with a VN motor and it picked up 12 kw's apparantly. and i said the same thing.... mounting it there would suck to much hot air.... couldnt really understand it.

[Garth]

Telling me to do something without any pros and cons on why is not helping me at all mate.

I posted the same question on multiple forums so that I can get a thorough answer as quickly as possible from as many different sources as possible. I don't see a problem.

dont worry about stealthy, he hasnt had his morning cuddle by the looks of things.



but seriously, cai kit with the standard holden air box. get air from the front of motor it's cool, cool air is better for performance compared to warmer air, all your doing is sucking in warmer air with the pod upwhere it is.

[Friction]

I have taken the pod filter off and replaced with the stock airbox with a new RYCO filter. When I can afford to buy a CAI and a better air filter I will add those.

Thanks everyone for your contributions.

[STEALTHY™]

dont worry about stealthy, he hasnt had his morning cuddle by the looks of things.

I wouldn't need cuddles if the search was used.....

[Friction]

As I already explained, I used the search and came up with my own decisions. I did not find any other threads on where the best place to put a pod filter, so I started a new one.

[TUF UTE]

in a box on a shelf in your shed ? lol

[STEALTHY™]

As I already explained, I used the search and came up with my own decisions. I did not find any other threads on where the best place to put a pod filter, so I started a new one.

I ment about the costs of filters (as its been pointed out you could get a decent panel filter for the same price) which would mean you have no need to find a good location for the pod.

Like i said tho, an enclosed box is best, and getting one fabricated isn't going to happen with no money! so for you panel filter and holden CAI.

[jetspin_vn]

When new, the paper filters will out do the KnN filters.

Yea... for about 5 minutes until they get the first trace of dust. If you were replacing them every month then yea, fine. I run a K&N pod, but then my induction is far from standard. None of that bloody accordian pipe under my bonnet, in fact only one 45 degree silicone bend. I have a enclosure setup tacked up, but not installing it until I finish the new engine.

If I ran the current setup to a standard box and panel, then it would be slightly superior to the pod. But in the interests of developing the enclosure I didn't bother.

[greenfoam]

K&N filters don't loose power when they get dust on them because the dust goes straight past them lol

only reason i bring this up is on the dyno, we tried different places for mounting a pod in a navara with a VN motor and it picked up 12 kw's apparantly. and i said the same thing.... mounting it there would suck to much hot air.... couldnt really understand it.
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Dynos wont messure how good a cai works at all since the bonnet is up with a big ass fan blowing on it. Soon as the bonnet is closed those 12rwkw would be gone and then some more with them. You really can't beat the traditional cai at the highest pressure location you can stick it (just under or in the fornt bumper) that's even better than a over the radiator. Also when you change the length of the intake piping you change the helmholtz resonance of the intake. A short pipe could give you alot more top end power if you have the length just right but the better way to do it would be stick a box at that location and then your normal duction to the front of the car (the box is a termination point then). I've allways beleived this is why the starr manifold can make more power than a stock banana, just because of the diameter change and different resonance rather than the flow itself

[rob drag racer]

i use a pod on my drag car but that's different mine sits outside of the bonnet as for a road car not worth it like a few people have already said a good panel filter is fine like a k&n