anyone know when VN got digital climate control units?

[Caprice5L]

ive been looking to buy a VN Calais 5L and have noticed that somewhere in 1990 they started getting digital climate control units instead of the 2 knobs and slider.

can anyone pin point it down to the month?
and can these digital units be installed into cars without?

thanks

[TVR-190]

pretty sure they can be installed into models without, but might not be easy.

[STEALTHY™]

I've seen 89s with them before, but i couldn't tell you the month. This would be one for 88greenvn

[TVR-190]

where is he, havent seen him post lately

[Caprice5L]

lets sit and wait...

[88GreenVN]

I have the date some place - I'll post it up later tonight - gotta go now...

[Pub247]

Must be very late in 89 my calais is an october build and doesnt have climate

[88GreenVN]

The XX8 wiring loom upgrade went into the VN on 13/10/89 L383096. This was the first chance a VN could have ECC. The VN Mark 2 was released in Feb 1990 and this had ECC as standard in the Calais.

[Pub247]

what else did the loom come with shane? i think im going to check mine though im pretty sure it 15/10/89
pity i missed out i would have kept aircon if it had climate.

[Renno]

what else did the loom come with shane? i think im going to check mine though im pretty sure it 15/10/89
pity i missed out i would have kept aircon if it had climate.

I would like to see what the loom came with aswell.

Just cheked mine and mine was in Dec 89........no climate for me ....

[STEALTHY™]

It must have only been optional for the first few months before they made it standard!

[kniever]

my mates calais is a 90 model and he didnt get climate so im guessing his was made in jan 90, i might have a look into it

[88GreenVN]

XX8 released in March 1990 as a Tech Bulletin

ECC (Option 61) may have been a Calais option from the introduction of the VQ. ?????

The wiring harness changes: (some introduced to production Oct 89.)

new fuse circuit grouping
headlamp fusible link rating up from 30 to 40 amp
a 30 amp engine fusible link replaced 2 links
to clear engine codes past L383309 remove engine fusible link for 10 seconds
engine cooling fan fusible link up from 25 to 30 amp
reduced harness lenght to wiper and headlamp switches
addition of PVC covers to battery and main harness connector
light over ignition lock
main wiring harness connector revised

For the Calais
mongoose anti-theft provision
power antenna loom deleted
revised MWH to body connector

licence plate lamp leads included in the body harness
auto tranny loom update
relocation of a few wires to the battery harness
ECC service info in VQ series service manual

[Caprice5L]

thanks for the info!

[88GreenVN]

ive been looking to buy a VN Calais 5L and have noticed that somewhere in 1990 they started getting digital climate control units instead of the 2 knobs and slider.

can anyone pin point it down to the month?
and can these digital units be installed into cars without?

thanks

So March 1990 is the official month. I suspect a few trial units would have gone down the line well before this date.

Can you put climate into a car - yes - but it's a bit of work. I just did the 88 VN Wagon over xmas. It's change the heater box and wire in the 10 wire loom and mount the sensors. About 2 days work.

Here is a link to the XX8 VN upgrade

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...option_xx8.jpg

I had a climate control system into a VN thread going.

Link -> Converting VN to Climate Control

[Caprice5L]

ive also been looking at VN SS's and noticed that somewhere in 1990 the front seats changed. i was thinking these 2 changes would have happened at the same time. and according to that bulletin i was right.

apart from the front seats, any other changes to VN SS? cos if i cant find a 91 model (ideally i want the last model) for a decent price, ive got a 90 model in mind with the 'series 1' seats, which i could just change anyway.