Engine Swap

[1993Vp]

Would anyone know what would need to be done to my frame to make it fit a 304 5L v8 in it??? It currentl has a 2.6L Dual Ram engine in it but wanna make the change any help would be greatly appreciated

[pow3rslave]

i'm guessing it's the starfire 4? at a guess it'd be similar to the upgrade from a 6 to an 8, it'll fit but need a new k frame, fuel pump, ecu and wiring, etc read up on the upgrades from a 6 to an 8, basically the same stuff

[1993Vp]

Sweet cheers mate

[Fun_Bucket]

What goes into these NZ commodores!!?

[1993Vp]

What do you mean?

[Fun_Bucket]

Well what is a 2.6 dual ram, and what is it doing in a VN-VP? Also some dude from NZ posted earlier saying he had a 2lt 4cyl from a vecta in his VN...We get V6's obviously, and then go about replacing them with V8's

[VrWagz1]

lol, yeah its odd to hear of a 4cyl in a VN as we never see them in aus but i think we are one of the only counteries that dont have them.

[1993Vp]

Aw true yea i just brought mine online not knowing much about it ***d the gearbox now looking for either a 304 or a 308

[greenfoam]

Engine pictures\! No one ever posts them. Over here we get all these storys of all these other motors in NZ Commodores. Never seem em! Like a Unicorn or Bigfoot. Although I did see a dead Bigfoot in a esky not so long ago

[PaRaDoX]

Engine pictures\! No one ever posts them. Over here we get all these storys of all these other motors in NZ Commodores. Never seem em! Like a Unicorn or Bigfoot. Although I did see a dead Bigfoot in a esky not so long ago

Thats because the startfire lives up to its name. id also like to see a picture, its funny to think that the vn commodore is most likely one of the only cars to come out with a factory 4 cyc 6cyc and 8cyc

[-Junior-]

Something like this.

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...royale-002.jpg

[ScoHar]

The engine is an Opel 2.6 Dual Ram 6cyl engine, not a 4 cyl starfire. I have pics as attached, not my car though.

Oh and this particular one is a calais, I'm pretty sure they were meant to be destined for European market.

Thanks for the rep people.......

[ScoHar]

cleared up everyone, I've got pics of most of the crazy models we have here in NZ, let me know of a so called unicorn car and ill get you a picture of it.

Runs and hides from leaving that too open.

and if you don't believe me that the engine pic belongs to that car just www.carjam.co.nz and put in the rego plate number you'll see it is a 2.6L

[delcowizzid]

chuck up a 2L vn one then for them its different.

[greenfoam]

The 2 litre should be the family 2 engine (Camira engine) I guess. Holden were making them by the millions in Melbourne at that time so they may as well have stuck them in some VN's. I wonder what K frame all these engines use? might be one in there that bolts a 2JZ straight in . Were these VN's shipped to NZ rolling and had the engines put in there or were they completed in Australia?

[delcowizzid]

fully assembled yeah i think it is the camira engine i saw one the other day looked just like it

[greenfoam]

I have a promo document thing for the family two engine they gave me when I went on a tour of Holdens engine factory once as a kid . The only lasting impression of the engine I had after I left was all the broken bits that were laying on the "failed parts today bench" outside the run in/test in dynos lol. You name it, it was laying in bits on the bench. The engines plug into this booth and they hold them at kings revs for a while then that's it, if it doesn't break it went into a Camira, really made me wonder how many were half broken/cracked tho

[Reaper]

The 2 litre should be the family 2 engine (Camira engine) I guess. Holden were making them by the millions in Melbourne at that time so they may as well have stuck them in some VN's. I wonder what K frame all these engines use? might be one in there that bolts a 2JZ straight in . Were these VN's shipped to NZ rolling and had the engines put in there or were they completed in Australia?

They are still making the family II engine in Pt Melbourne. Plant is scheduled to close late this year but from what I understand that is being brought forward to the next few weeks/months.

Reaper

[greenfoam]

They are still making the family II engine in Pt Melbourne. Plant is scheduled to close late this year but from what I understand that is being brought forward to the next few weeks/months.

Reaper

I thought it closed a little while ago, where have they been sending them lately? I can't imagine they are a high end motor these days no matter how many upgrades it's had. I got to see a few 308 blocks and heads laying around while I was there but they weren't in production that day unless I was just in the wrong place. In fact the whole place was only putting out a couple engines each once in a while that day, pretty slow going they were having some issues somewhere on the line

[Reaper]

I thought it closed a little while ago, where have they been sending them lately? I can't imagine they are a high end motor these days no matter how many upgrades it's had. I got to see a few 308 blocks and heads laying around while I was there but they weren't in production that day unless I was just in the wrong place. In fact the whole place was only putting out a couple engines each once in a while that day, pretty slow going they were having some issues somewhere on the line

Daewoo and SE Asia from memory. They seem to be having more down days than production of late though. Interestingly after 25+ years of production they are still finding new and interesting ways of fouling up engines.

Reaper

[PaRaDoX]

wow that dual ram 2.6 L looks soo much better than the 2.0L lol,

[ScoHar]

chuck up a 2L vn one then for them its different.

the picture has already been posted hasn't it?

above my last post.

[1993Vp]

Yea thats my engine