(Question) Suspension: King Superlows and KYB Excel-G

[8rody]

Quick question for all here, what is the ride quality like on a V6 VN with King Superlows and KYB Excel-G's ?

(short story)

I had a stocker VN V6.
Shocks were blown, so I replaced front and rear with King Springs LOW and KYB Excel-G shocks (non short ones).

My strut tops were stuffed, so I needed to replace those and I wasnt happy with the ride height (35mm drop my-arse). The ride quality was rather sloppy. so I replaced the front and rear springs with King Springs Superlow.
and sold the King Low springs.

This restored the car to a reasonable height, however the ride quality is still pretty poor.

I bought shortened KYB-Excell G shocks for the rear, and I've noticed a significant improvement, as the rear is no where as sloppy.

alas the front is still sloppy and bouncy as hell.

QUESTION: Is matching King Superlow shocks with KYB shortened Excel-G's imperative?
Because i've been most disappointed with the ride quality as of yet.

And for the money blown during this ordeal, i could have bought quite decent suspension. Augh!

[centy]

new ones for the front and check all your rubbers.

[8rody]

Forgot to mention, front end has all Nolothane bushels.
And the front have new shocks, they just aren't short throw.

I've done some reading and though short-throw shocks are best practice, I had no idea it was imperative to overcome shitty ride quality?

*scratches head*

[VrWagz1]

Try a bigger sway bar id say if you still think its rolling too much.

[8rody]

Its not the swaybar, i get front tyre lift @ 60ks around a round-about. :P

It feels like the shocks are stuffed. Which is infuriating because they are brand new.
Just a really sloppy front end.

[8rody]

I can only deduce that normal shocks and lowered springs are a big no-no.
Or that KYB Excel-G's are utter garbage.

[Scooter79]

Its not the swaybar, i get front tyre lift @ 60ks around a round-about. :P

It feels like the shocks are stuffed. Which is infuriating because they are brand new.
Just a really sloppy front end.

Maybe you should just slow down on roundabouts?

I suggest you talk to one of the sponsors here: Greg from GSL Rallysport. He sell KYB and Monroe and always recommends the KYB even though they're cheaper.

[8rody]

Scooter79, this was during a test-'fang' in a industrial area in newcastle late at night. I do not condone wreckless driving.

I know, and from what I hear KYB are fairly decent.
I'm going to keep trying to work out what it is, i'll post the answer to this thread once.. i work it out.
Something doesn't feel right.

[1991_Vn2nV]

I still run Lovells in the front of mine as I was never happy with the King Springs fronts as they were softer than the Lovells. I went from Monroe to KYB shocks last time I changed shocks and was quite impressed with the improvement.

[immortality]

with the front struts fully extended are the springs captured? i run KYB exel-G's with "brand" ? SSL and don't have any issues

[8rody]

Yes they are completely captured. I was told by AutoOne that there were shorter shocks available for the front, but i've not been able to find any factual information about this.

I've got race-car camber at the moment, but i'm waiting till i replace the rack and pinion till I get an alignment.

I'll have to get the suspension geometry soughed before I cry wolf.
Just frustrating is all. Never had this sloppiness before in any car i've replaced the suspension and bushels. Ugh.

Thanks guys