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    Default An ego boost against a soarer...

    guy at work got one of those mid-90's V8 toyota soarers recently and has been paying out my 5.0L VN constantly. And I will admit, my VN is looking a little rough around the edges...

    so we had a little play after work this afternoon at the back of the industrial estate where we work.

    VN - 3
    Soarer - 0


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    nice work mate you show that piece of S#&T!!! So when s the next round?? Keep us posted? You need to get some photos of you blasting him!
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    pics would be good... next time i'll get someone out there with camera :-P

    i'm getting the 'box done in the next couple of weeks, clutch is slipping a bit. maybe after that.

    speaking of which, while the box is open, can anyone recommend some cost effective mods?

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    hey mate this ain't really the section where u post about ur wins this is where u ment to post ur ride and wat u dun to it.....nice work on beattin the toyota tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charg'd
    i think your full of shit, v8 soarers are quick
    Toyota Soarer 1994 4.0GT-L coupe
    Kerb weight 1750kg
    Engine size 3968cc 8 cylinder DOHC32 valve
    Max.power 191.23 kw @ 5400 rpm
    Max.torque 353.04 N*m @ 4600 rpm
    (http://www.jared.info/rpmonline/toyotasoarer.html)

    VN Berlina Wagon 4dr Auto 4sp 5.0i
    Kerb Weight 1492kg
    Engine Size 4987cc (5.0) V90 Pushrod
    max. power 165kW @ 4400rpm
    max. torque 385Nm @ 3600rpm

    from www.redbook.com.au

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    Quote Originally Posted by wes_v8
    hey mate this ain't really the section where u post about ur wins this is where u ment to post ur ride and wat u dun to it.....nice work on beattin the toyota tho
    i did post something but it seemed to disappear...

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    wow stats on paper dont mean shit too me, you think wat you think ill think wat i think, so then theres no arguements. can you show some pics of ya car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charg'd
    wow stats on paper dont mean shit too me, you think wat you think ill think wat i think, so then theres no arguements. can you show some pics of ya car?
    sorry about the lighting.

    like i said, it's a little rough around the edges...

    work so far includes a bottom end rebuild, a set of extractors, a second hand throttle body and a stereo.

    it's a work in progress.
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    my sister has a lexus soaror v8
    310kw from a 4.2ltr not bad for stock
    like to see you beat that, it beats mine!
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    did you swap cars? i reckon he was just a shit driver.

    swap cars next time, do equal amount of runs and then come back, and maybe do it at a track with some timeslips.

    also, wats his? auto or manual?

    i see yours is auto

    also note, his max power and torque are higher in the rev range than yours, so depending on gear ratios, he might not be making full power til further on that you race to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakhawk
    did you swap cars? i reckon he was just a shit driver.

    swap cars next time, do equal amount of runs and then come back, and maybe do it at a track with some timeslips.

    also, wats his? auto or manual?

    i see yours is auto

    also note, his max power and torque are higher in the rev range than yours, so depending on gear ratios, he might not be making full power til further on that you race to.
    all v8 soarers are auto

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakhawk
    did you swap cars? i reckon he was just a shit driver.

    swap cars next time, do equal amount of runs and then come back, and maybe do it at a track with some timeslips.

    also, wats his? auto or manual?

    i see yours is auto

    also note, his max power and torque are higher in the rev range than yours, so depending on gear ratios, he might not be making full power til further on that you race to.
    yeah, both cars are auto, and i've had mine a lot longer. no way he'll let me drive it though, he wont even let his missus drive it.

    we tried it 3 times... it was pretty close each time, the soarer would keep up until i got into second then the vn would pull away...

    the other thing is the soarer has traction control and every other accessory known to man, and about 300kg more weight than the wagon... and the wagon doesnt even have the air con connected, it's stripped down pretty bare.

    we backed off at the top of second gear, who knows what would happen over a longer run.

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    V8 Soarers are pretty slow coz they are heavy as for a coupe. Big phat ass on it. Lexus/Toyota pretty just made them as a luxury car with a lil oomph for those that didn't want the far better twin turbo version. Also Soarers have this safety mechanism with their computer systems on auto transmissions where it delays the timing between the mash of the pedal to the floor and the engine roaring into life...only talking about half a second to a second...but thats pretty long in terms of dragging other cars. Interesting battle though...loll...
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    im sorry to tell u a stock v8 soarer does not have 310kw. They are slow as... Ive seen v6 commys smash them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by commy92
    im sorry to tell u a stock v8 soarer does not have 310kw. They are slow as... Ive seen v6 commys smash them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by commy92
    im sorry to tell u a stock v8 soarer does not have 310kw. They are slow as... Ive seen v6 commys smash them.
    i drove my mates v8 soarer, its gutless. MY ute = owns it

    i dunno what year it is though.....
    Some people say less talk more action, i say more torque less traction.

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    Lexus GS450h was the most powerful Lexus up to the start of 2006 at 218kw.
    (The latest 4.5litre V8 is around 290kW)
    5.9sec 0-100kmh for the quickest 2006 Lexus and 9.3 for the slowest.
    Lexus Soarer? Is it an imported Soarer? If it is and is badged as a Lexus LS400 or LS430 here then it is 6.7 to 100 in the 4.0 litre and as quick as 6.1 in the 4.3 (all auto).
    Max power for a Soarer was 208kW from the 2.5 litre turbo six and they were in the high sixes, low sevens 0-100 so a VN V8 should be able to match most of them. The most powerful V8 soarer was the 4.0 litre with 194kW and 0-100 in the mid to high sevens (the N/A 3.0 litre six is good for 183kW). The VN should beat the V8s in a Soarer.
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    I believe you ! mathematically your car (in standard form) has about .03 sec advantage over a v8 soarer of the power you stated, your motor peaks out quicker so its gonna beat it with gear changes plus you mentioned you've got extractors...so that will help it rev a bit quicker...What the soarer needs is a lower ratio diff to get it's fat arse off the line a bit quicker...and make it shift gears quicker...it might be a 0-3 outcome for you then.
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    The 1UZ series engines are excellent it's just the excessive weight of the soarer that is its downfall. I'm thinking of an engine conversion for my '64 Valiant and pretty certain it's going to be 1UZ. Reliability and enonomy to power balance being the main reasons. Plus the Valiant weighs 400kg less.

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    the soarers just a luxo barge or course its not going to ba that quick. Then again the turbo 6 is faster than the 8.
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