HSV SENATOR 5000i

[broderikb]

Hey all, just got myself a 1992 HSV Senator 5000i & was hoping you guys & gals might have some more info & specs on this model. Cheers.

[fabz]

Is it apple green ? If so wanna sell it to me?

[immortality]

which intake manifold does it have, the standard bananas job or the GRP A twin TB setup.

[broderikb]

So far I have found out that it has....

build number 007 of 136.

200kw 304 "RED" engine.(Senator 5000i only, Senator had 180kw "RED" engine)

HSV Premium brake package.

Recalibrated Auto transmission.

"Senator Quartz" 2k paint.(Senator 5000i only)

Leather/suede sports interior.

HSV Sports suspension.

Extractors & twin exhaust system.

Has anyone got any real specs on the engine or any other info would be great????

[STEALTHY™]

Is it just me or are those Sideskirts not original.

[JSTPOZN]

army lol


you got this off ebay yeah?

[fabz]

Great cars. This car (well it was apple green) was the reason i liked holdens so much. My neighbour had one and used to let me wash it when i was young and he let me drive it up the street and would talk me out down to crounlla and wow the looks we would get. I thought it was the bees knees. If anyone has one thats apple green in colour and wants to part with it PM me. Enjoy the car!!!

[fabz]

I think these are some stats

Senator (5.0 L 185i Model) 416 to Dec 95 4987 cc V8 185 kW @ 4800 rpm (248 hp) 400 Nm @ 3600 rpm (295 ft/lb) 235/45 ZR17 - Bridgestone Expedia S-01 $59,785 (Man & Auto)
Senator (5.7 L 215i Model) 5737 cc V8 215 kW @ 4800 rpm (288 hp) 475 Nm @ 3600 rpm (350.5 ft/lb) 235/45 ZR17 - Bridgestone Expedia S-01 $72,740 (Man & Auto)

[JD]

I think these are some stats

Senator (5.0 L 185i Model) 416 to Dec 95 4987 cc V8 185 kW @ 4800 rpm (248 hp) 400 Nm @ 3600 rpm (295 ft/lb) 235/45 ZR17 - Bridgestone Expedia S-01 $59,785 (Man & Auto)
Senator (5.7 L 215i Model) 5737 cc V8 215 kW @ 4800 rpm (288 hp) 475 Nm @ 3600 rpm (350.5 ft/lb) 235/45 ZR17 - Bridgestone Expedia S-01 $72,740 (Man & Auto)

i think those stats are only for vs senators

[broderikb]

i think those stats are only for vs senators

I was thinking that myself

VP SENATOR is 180kw

VP SENATOR 5000i is 200kw

[pandaman]

Ok the tech specs that make the 200kw motor different from the average 165kw 5L are as follows:
-HSV exhaust - just the twin cat system that was optional on the base model if memory serves (185kw motor got this as well)

-CAI - (185kw motor got this as well)

-Cam, this is the biggest difference, the 200kw motor ran a cam with similar specs to the Crane H268, Crow 4001, Come CSBH266 etc. Basically, a cam with slightly more duration and lift than standard.

-Tune, it came with a tune to suit the cam with more fuel down low and a steeper rise up to 14.7 when the boot is down. It also has a fair bit more spark advance with the boot down and the revs up than either the 165 or 185 tunes. mmmm, powerlicious.

I'm pretty sure those are most of the mechanical things that make it special, in terms of styling features, buggered if I know.

[88GreenVN]

There was also 30 5th anniversary HSV VP 5000i Senators built.
Cost new $58,450. Built from April 1992 to Sep 1993.

[1991_Vn2nV]

Is it just me or are those Sideskirts not original.

Yeah VS Clubby sideskirts.

[killarava2day]

-CAI - (185kw motor got this as well)

Not in the VPs.

[pandaman]

Not in the VPs.

You sure? I thought HSV's got CAI's from VN on? Although never having looked at one up close I dunno.

[killarava2day]

Here's a photo of mine, totally standard.

I took a photo of the interior...the seats are in pretty good nick eh?

[broderikb]

Here's a photo of mine, totally standard.

That is early style HSV CAI(same as mine). Have a look at the bottom of the air box, the intake is the whole front of the box. Standard V8 ones only have them in the corner of the box.

[broderikb]

Ok the tech specs that make the 200kw motor different from the average 165kw 5L are as follows:
-HSV exhaust - just the twin cat system that was optional on the base model if memory serves (185kw motor got this as well)

-CAI - (185kw motor got this as well)

-Cam, this is the biggest difference, the 200kw motor ran a cam with similar specs to the Crane H268, Crow 4001, Come CSBH266 etc. Basically, a cam with slightly more duration and lift than standard.

-Tune, it came with a tune to suit the cam with more fuel down low and a steeper rise up to 14.7 when the boot is down. It also has a fair bit more spark advance with the boot down and the revs up than either the 165 or 185 tunes. mmmm, powerlicious.

I'm pretty sure those are most of the mechanical things that make it special, in terms of styling features, buggered if I know.

Hey mate, where did you get all this info.....

[killarava2day]

Ah yeah true, but it still isn't intaking cold air from the outside of the car though.

[pandaman]

Hey mate, where did you get all this info.....

Umm, here and there. I've got a book called "how to rebuild and hotrod holden V8" which has a lot of info, terrible editing though. Also the info on the cam I got from the crane, crow and come websites coz they all do a standard replacement cam for the 200kw motor, which has 206 degrees 0.050 duration and .45ish lobe lift. (I installed the crow version in mine recently) Finally, do some forum whoring, like you're doing now, you'll find a heap of info. If you're not already on there I reccomend taking a look at the street commodores forum, some damned good tech info there.

Ah yeah true, but it still isn't intaking cold air from the outside of the car though.

Yeah slightly better than the hole in the airbox style thing though, kinda like 1/2 a CAI.

[sv91]

Is it just me or are those Sideskirts not original.

Would be extremely lucky to find any new ones as i was told i bought the last new ones in existence. Plenty of fibre glass copies around though.

[STEALTHY™]

Would be extremely lucky to find any new ones as i was told i bought the last new ones in existence. Plenty of fibre glass copies around though.

thats why i thought it was wierd, who would take the original ones off anyway.

[killarava2day]

The original ones certainly look much better imo.

[broderikb]

thats why i thought it was wierd, who would take the original ones off anyway.

My question exactly. I have been in contact with Repliglass here in Brisbane & he can do me a set for a good price. I will get them painted when I get the wheels done.

[AirStrike]

Great cars. This car (well it was apple green) was the reason i liked holdens so much. My neighbour had one and used to let me wash it when i was young and he let me drive it up the street and would talk me out down to crounlla and wow the looks we would get. I thought it was the bees knees. If anyone has one thats apple green in colour and wants to part with it PM me. Enjoy the car!!!

Wheres the apple green coming from? They never made Senator 5000i's in that colour..............hell I dont know any holden that colour.