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    Haha, I'll consider it Bz Kn33z But I also like a rattle-free dash

    Also, the evaporator is HUGE!!! Here it is lined up next to my cigarette case for comparison:

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    lol so you actually planned on putting the rest back in?? thats some good work i would have just ****ed the whole thing off
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    Haha, I'm considering removing the heater core... But it's nice to have vents for demister etc.

    Does anybody have any experience installing an electronic heater into the climate control system, in place of the water cooled system the cars use?

    I'm talking about a 12v heater (similar to something you'd plug into the cig lighter) that I can place where the heater core was, and flick on/off at will.
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    i reckon its not worth it. will probably mess up your climate system, start melting stuff under the dash, or cause a fire. that and it will weigh more than a heater core

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morton View Post
    Haha, I'm considering removing the heater core... But it's nice to have vents for demister etc.

    Does anybody have any experience installing an electronic heater into the climate control system, in place of the water cooled system the cars use?

    I'm talking about a 12v heater (similar to something you'd plug into the cig lighter) that I can place where the heater core was, and flick on/off at will.
    Have a search, Hot rodders use them all the time, so definitly wont be hard to find one. Also a few people on oldholden.com are using them from memory.

    Also just been reading abit of this thread..... Your mad lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88GreenVN View Post
    Heater tap may be stuffed.... and not opening

    I think default setting for the climate is to heat to floor when turned off..
    i was thinkin this but wen i replaced all my heater hoses i checked it seemed 2 move freely but then again who knows lol

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    Yeah, my heater core was blocked up like the M1 at peak hour. Every time I shook and flushed it, more brown yukkies came out. I'm leaving it to soak in hot water right now. May take it to a gurney and force-flush it tonight, with the hope that I don't break it

    Explains why my heater was luke warm - only half the core was filling up with coolant, if that. The rest of it was packed with cold mud
    sound like wat mine would b like wen i 1st got the car, water got in the block and turned 2 ice coffee, all got cleaned out but i think the heater core was the only thing we couldnt flush coz they damage easy??? so im hoping mines just full of brown stuff from that.
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    Engine covers on indeed. We will have words about this
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    Morton alot of guys use 12 volt hair dryers instead of a heater core. You can look into that. But I think you are better off with a water heater

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    Take some more deadner out or that fluffy crap off the carpet and more heat will come in from the motor, or the rubber around the gear stick i had that off and it was very loud! but nice and warm its worth a thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky View Post
    i reckon its not worth it. will probably mess up your climate system, start melting stuff under the dash, or cause a fire. that and it will weigh more than a heater core
    Yeah, I've decided to go with the stock heater for now

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    Have a search, Hot rodders use them all the time, so definitly wont be hard to find one. Also a few people on oldholden.com are using them from memory.

    Also just been reading abit of this thread..... Your mad lol.
    It's an interesting thought... I had a look, but I'd be paying $100 all up for a decent electronic heater setup, and it still wouldn't be all that good.

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    i was thinkin this but wen i replaced all my heater hoses i checked it seemed 2 move freely but then again who knows lol

    sound like wat mine would b like wen i 1st got the car, water got in the block and turned 2 ice coffee, all got cleaned out but i think the heater core was the only thing we couldnt flush coz they damage easy??? so im hoping mines just full of brown stuff from that.
    Yeah, I need to do a flush of the whole cooling system now, while I've got the heater core and all out of the car.

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    I'm doing mine just for fun. Now that I've thought of it, I neeeeed to
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    Also, to the person who mentioned the bumper reos, good thinking!! They can lose some meat without compromising safety I think!
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    Morton alot of guys use 12 volt hair dryers instead of a heater core. You can look into that. But I think you are better off with a water heater
    Yeah, I'm sticking with the water heater. I like my warmth (here's hoping it all works when I stick it back in the stato tomorrow).

    If not, all back out to see where I went wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Bz Kn33z View Post
    Take some more deadner out or that fluffy crap off the carpet and more heat will come in from the motor, or the rubber around the gear stick i had that off and it was very loud! but nice and warm its worth a thought
    Haha I think I will remove it I like being able to hear what's going on - and if that stuff is absorbing sound, I do not want!!!

    I'll throw the dash back together with some sikaflex between a few things though. I like the idea of nothing rattling
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    Finally got the climate control system back together (I think) - now to double check everything is in order, and take it back out to the car for reinstallation!

    What a sonofabitch it was to put back together. All the innards just float, they're not fixed, so I had to line up a dozen different pieces before sliding the two halves back together, then stick my hand in and arrange them all while slowly moving the two halves closer before clicking everything into place to be secured. Never. Again.

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    What a pain, i never want to pull my dash out ever , the stato should go on TV Add saying it lost 150KG in 12 months thanx Morton! lol
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    Haha, I'm sitting here looking at the climate control... I ONLY use the system for a demister. I have no aircon, and I was fine the other day when it was 2deg in the morning and my heater was broken. I didn't cry.

    Luke has almost talked me into getting 2x 12v hairdryers for a demister. And nothing else.
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    I only use it for the demisters aswell, but i dont think i will try and tackle that in my car :P,

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    It'll be interesting, and I won't have to turn the car on to demist the window. Go out, turn on the heaters in the morning before I get dressed, and by the time I get out to drive the car, it's all demisted and the edge is taken off the chill.
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    how did ya go with flushing the heater core, seem fine after it?
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    but if hair dryers blow hot air wont that defy the point of using them for a demister as the reason it has fogged up is due to the temperture differnce.

    cause im pretty sure when i use the demister in my stato it throws the a/c on..

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    Heaters work fine for demisting, that's all I ever use. Insta fixed. Morton I saw a episode of Top Gear the other day. The boys were building a Caterham and trying to get it finished before the Stig arrived in his. I thought of you and decided if you watched that you would know what is the correct thing to do

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    Quote Originally Posted by vh_sle_81 View Post
    as the reason it has fogged up is due to the temperture differnce.
    cause im pretty sure when i use the demister in my stato it throws the a/c on..
    Demister = air con + heaters (for best results)
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx884 View Post
    how did ya go with flushing the heater core, seem fine after it?
    Seemed to clear up - havn't tested the heater though, and I don't know if I'll get a chance ^_^

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    but if hair dryers blow hot air wont that defy the point of using them for a demister as the reason it has fogged up is due to the temperture differnce.

    cause im pretty sure when i use the demister in my stato it throws the a/c on..
    Nah, the fog builds up due to the moisture in the air touching the cold window, and condensing. When you blow the window with hot air, you do two things. You raise the temperature of the glass, preventing condensation - and more short-term, you blow hot dry air over the condensation and remove it.

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    Heaters work fine for demisting, that's all I ever use. Insta fixed. Morton I saw a episode of Top Gear the other day. The boys were building a Caterham and trying to get it finished before the Stig arrived in his. I thought of you and decided if you watched that you would know what is the correct thing to do

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    Demister = air con + heaters (for best results)
    will work fine with just heaters
    Yeah, aircon is long gone anyway
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    So work begins moving the battery to the boot.

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    keep us posted i wanna see how this turns out so i can re-locate my battery too

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