tranfering vn 5.0l auto into vr5.0l manual?
hey guys n girls i just busted my 5.0l in the vr which is mated with a 5 speed man. got a vn 5.0l sittin around but i think it was off an auto will i hav any dramas puttin this motor on the 5 speed or should it bolt straight up???
cheers!
So you want to use a 5L motor from an auto vn and mate this upto a T5 in your VR right??? If so then yes it will bolt straight up.
yeah mate. sweet! sorry thread may be a little hard to understand. cheers
you will have to pull the engine loom of the vr and put it on the vn motor
Float like an elephant sting like a tree clubsport hits what doug does'nt see
Id ring an auto engineering place and ask a very simple question...
Can you place an OLDER engine into your car and still register it?
ie: a 1990 engine into a 1994 car.
i think theres something that says you can only ever put an engine of the same year or newer into your car...??
dont quote me... but yeah...
Last edited by PanthaVS; 29-06-2009 at 01:00 PM. Reason: typo
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PanthaVS is correct. You physically can, fairly sure you legally can't. Something about emissions, though i don't know if this counts being both unleaded and injected as opposed to transplanting a carby engine or leaded motor.
pretty sure its still legal. its the same block, and the same emissions stuff on it
eg. rb30s are legal in later model vns
1995 Manual HSV Clubsport
Wade Cam :: 9.2:1 CR :: Pacemaker headers :: Twin 2.5" Exhaust :: VT Brakes
1991 Supercharged VN Berlina
9 PSI SC14 Intercooled :: Genie headers :: Twin cats :: HM Twin 2.25 exhaust :: 3.45:1 LSD
They can be real anal on block date, i think the Jackaroo came out with the rb30 at a later date than the VL and it makes those blocks legalOriginally Posted by stocky
I'ts legal all cars from 1986 to 1997 run the same emmisions standard and all are swapable between each other. Not only that, all VN-VS 5 litre blocks run the same engine number (it just goes up) and are identical motors, For 4 years now I've been watching people post false info about this it's about time to get over you older engine into newer car storys??. So long as they run the same OR newer emmisions standard its fine
<---Brad Quaid = internet stalker
can you find proof of that? fair to say everyone should get over it if you can back it up but right now it's simply your word against other people's stories.I'ts legal all cars from 1986 to 1997 run the same emmisions standard and all are swapable between each other. Not only that, all VN-VS 5 litre blocks run the same engine number (it just goes up) and are identical motors, For 4 years now I've been watching people post false info about this it's about time to get over you older engine into newer car storys
its called adr mate is easily available at the D.O.T. as a pamphlet telling you all the mods you can legally do to a car
and yes foamy is correct..
I am a qualified mechanic and have a licence to write rwc's so i need to know this stuff
cheers
Float like an elephant sting like a tree clubsport hits what doug does'nt see
Big Stato!!
I thought the VN 5L was different for some reason...... Thats why i never bought a VN 5l for my car. Not even a VR. Wow thanks heaps for that info. I will be looking at a new engine soon to play with. 304 VN engines are easy to find where im from.
If i keep all my VS elec's etc, Can i still use the T700-E box? or do i need to change it?
well im sure vn luke registering his vn with a rb30 out of an older vl is more than just some story. same principle applies for any other engine swap, especially when the two engines are exactly the same
1995 Manual HSV Clubsport
Wade Cam :: 9.2:1 CR :: Pacemaker headers :: Twin 2.5" Exhaust :: VT Brakes
1991 Supercharged VN Berlina
9 PSI SC14 Intercooled :: Genie headers :: Twin cats :: HM Twin 2.25 exhaust :: 3.45:1 LSD
It's not my word against anything, it's just how it is. If you had of ever read the laws instead of just guessing you would know that I'm right.
If you are replacing an engine in a car that's been built since the first emissions ADR, it must be of a similar emissions (or better) than the ADR the car passed when new. If the engine was an option at the factory it can go straight in. If it was NOT an option at the factory but can be bolted in without customised parts (welding) then it also needs no engineering aproval, this is he case of the RB30 into VN-VS, both ADR 37/00 engines. You can legally although alot of RWC mechanics would look crooked at you, not to mention you would be silly to do it, put a 304 from a VL carby and all into a VN-VS, fact is it would be legal and it would be passed once a few phone calls were made to someone that knows. You can also put imported motors that have passed a similar or better emissions standard into the car, an unleaded Chev V8 from California could go into an early Commodore for example but the mounts on that would need to be engineer approved
ADR 37/00 is
HC g/km 0.91 CO g/km 9.4 NOx g/km 1.93
Which is the same as the 1977 US emmisions standard converted to km rather than miles so anything sold in the states from 1977 - can also go into a VN-VS so long as all the emissions stuff is still on the motor. At this stage it's all a bit beyond most mechanics but it's possible. Or it would be possible to put a big block in a VN and skip the emissions test but it would need to be engineered for the extra weight, capacity and mounts
The older AU standards are
ADR || CO || HC || NOx
______________________________
ADR 27A || 24.2 || 2.1 || 1.9
ADR 27B || 22 || 1.9 || 1.9
ADR 27C || 18.6 || 1.75 || 1.9
Last edited by greenfoam; 30-06-2009 at 05:49 AM.
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