I have been buying ryco oil filters for a few years now,what i have noticed lately is they
have gone from being made in new zealand to south africa and the one i got the other day from super cheap was made in china.is it possible the quality will drop off as they look different when you look inside them now? vs v8is the k+n a better option
I know this isn't much help, but the GM filter I picked up from Holden a few months ago was made in Poland. Was only like $8 or $9 or something. Are K&N's oil filters as expensive as their air filters?
About 12 months ago I noticed that my Ryco oil filter was leaking - found it loose so I tightened it up. Next oil change I again fitted a Ryco filter and again the filter "loosened" after a few weeks of operation. Both were made in China. I notified the company by Email twice from their website but received no reply so I figure they don't care. I might try a third time but at least a reply would be nice. Last filter changed I used a Valvoline "made in China" job.
So it appears you cannot faithfully follow one particular brand as the quality can vary. I wouldn't know about K&N oil filters but maybe if they are made in the USA they will be OK although I think K&N are also profit-driven. So maybe the only way is to use ones from Holden - and last time I looked they were some strange brand I'd never heard of.
Sorry I cannot help.....maybe someone knows of a reliable brand.![]()
Autobarn. I used to use them up until last oil change, but too expensive now. THey are made in the U.S and are a copy of the Mobil 1 filter, Champion Labs. THey are easily the best oil filter available. Ryco were good when made in South Africa, Australia etc, but now it China i am not that keep, although i fitted one to a Toyota and its been excellent. Purulator Pureone used to be the best ones out there from Supercheap, but their is no more supplier , i tried emailing them but no reply either. Yes the Holden Filter is made in Poland etc. I am not too sure about how good it flows. AC Delco available at Holden Spare parts, R&E Autos are excellent, ask them if they are the old design which is what you want. Look inside, if its metal then its good. Some new ones use a Nylon Core.
I'm currently using a Wix, made in the U.S.A but it seems it was the last in the Country and no one imports them anymore. These are highly regarded, NASCAR approved etc. They get excellent reviews.
In the last week only on advice from people in the U.S who have the best market for oils and filters put me onto Donaldson and Fleetguard. They are available from Trucking spare parts and cross reference with the Z154. They are both highly excellent oil filters.
Oil Filters - Bob Is The Oil Guy
Read through that site, excellent info on filters, you may even see my queries on there.
Goodluck.
last year i had a rep sell me valvoline filters in bulk cheap. 4 oil changes in one day 4 filters loose 4 days later. never using valvoline again
+1 For AC Delco, They are cheaper then Ryco, and a much better quality. They also make alot of OEM parts for Holden anyway.
I normally pay $5 - $5.50 an oil filter.
I personelly wouldnt bother with K&N, its more a wank factor and there not on the car long enough to warrant the cost.
Unless you're comparing oil analyses, I'm not too sure how you blokes are establishing that your filters are "good"?
For the guys with filters falling off, are you oiling the seals before putting them on, and the obvious question, are you tightening them enough? They are meant to be hand tight, but still quite firm.
PS. The K&N has oil magnets in to positively align the oil ions for optimal resistance to shearing forces on cold start-up. Good for 15rwkw.
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Originally Posted by Reaper
i use K&N, never had any problems. they are expensive, but i guess it depends on if you want to pay it or not...
its just an oil filter mate, don't lose sleep over it
hako you need to tighten your filters more (use your filter wrench)
as for k&n oil filters... what a crock of sh*t.
ITS JUST AN OIL FILTER! why would you waste money on a "performance" oil filter![]()
Last edited by rocco555; 27-06-2009 at 05:33 PM.
From wikipedia:
"Brock began to consult health practitioner Eric Dowker. He gave up alcohol and cigarettes, and became a vegan. Brock began publicly supporting and, eventually, began to fit to all Holden Dealer Team specials a device called the "Energy Polarizer" containing crystals and magnets that, it was claimed, improved the performance and handling of vehicles through aligning the molecules."
Last edited by aceventura; 27-06-2009 at 06:45 PM.
The K&N is an excellent filter, Amsoil also good. Its expensive because its better than most over the counter and made in the U.S.A. Same people bagging the oil filter i bet have a k&n air filter ???? The filter has no magnets, that's crap. Its a larger filter, more filtering area, increases oil capacity slightly. I am waiting on an oil test with Valvoline Synpower and a K&N for 8000k's. They are a long drain filter. Autobarn have drift filters with a magnet inside.
Even Repco filters are good for 5000k's but i wouldn't take it further. And a filter is not just a filter, a poor filter will kill your engine, in many different ways. Good filters will affect oil pressure and oil feed on start up to take way a rattle and provide better lubrication.
If you follow that link i posted, theirs heaps of people on there who even cut open filters, before an dafter, fully analyse them, some are distributers for certain brands, there is no one here in Oz scrutinising filters like this. Same as with engine oils, ours are not the best............
As Danja said, tighten your filters up by hand until they stop turning. Forget about the 2/3 turn bizzo. Just close your eyes and go by feel.
Its sad and stupid that everything is now made in China. Unfortunately the majority of the western world is purely profit driven and don't give a crap about anything else.
^^ yeah but would you pay $50 for the same filter if it was australian made? that's how much it would cost. i'm all for supporting australian products, but the chinese are very good at bulk producing basically anything. and the quality is decent too.
and how much would i pay for a K&N iol filter from autobarn? i normaly just get the Holden oil and filter for about $45 i think and would normaly change it at about the 6000-8000kms mark
Last edited by MR_VX; 28-06-2009 at 10:46 AM.
na, don't beilive it. The trouble is we have sent so much overseas that we have lost a lot of technoolgy, and at the same time we have lost the volume necessary to make local production viable. Just my view but i reckon there's a heap of aussie CEO's that should be shot in the Ass for it.
Most of the work these days is automated, so there's little difference in cost no matter which country the machines operate in. There's only about $1 worth of materials in an oil filter...
What tecnoolgy have we lost? One problem with technology is that it is very transportable. Australia is and has been a world leader in developing many technologies in many areas for a long time.
There is only 1 reason why manufacturing is sent off shore - cost. There are many facets that go into the mix however for most there are 3 major ones - cost of labour, environmental/OHS costs and taxation. In many cases the CEO's had no choice - move manufactring off shore or have no business in the future. There are several options to bringing manufacturing back to this country - 1. lower our labour costs down to levels around 25% of what they are now (not going to happen) or 2. Australia as a society gets very perohical and insists on buying Australian - along with the higher cost that goes with it.
Of course our current Federal government does Australian manufacturing no favors with the introduction of the Carbon tax (AKA Growth Tax). They are not only driving one of the last nails in the coffin of Aus manufacturing, but overall causing more world wide environmental damaga long with carbon emissions in the process.
Reaper
P.s. been using RYCO products for many years with no hassles.
I've noted recently that Ryco brand filter quality has become inferior to what it was in the past.
no one said the k&n filter isn't good, its just a waste of money
it's like buying a performance clock, you aint gonna get any benefits out of it
"Its a larger filter, more filtering area, increases oil capacity slightly"...??? whats the point of these properties??? what benefits are you getting??? a standard ryco filter will filter your oil just fine and allow your car to maintain perfect oil pressure throughout its use! mine do. if you've got low oil pressure, you've got bigger issues... but none of which will be solved by a magical oil filter.
"Good filters will affect oil pressure and oil feed on start up to take way a rattle and provide better lubrication." i don't have a rattle on start-up... majority of people here wouldn't... so why would you worry about this... and again, your issues stem further than your oil filter if you do.
"Even Repco filters are good for 5000k's but i wouldn't take it further." this is such a load of rubbish... i've been using rycos since day one on all my vehicles for up to twice as long as this and my cars motors are in pristine running condition. oil comes out with a healthy brown tinge to it too.
if you wanna get suckered into buying oil filters that cost 4-5 times as much as a conventional one, then go ahead. keep reading your "facts" on the internet and telling yourself your "performance" filter is worth the money. after all, its guys like you who keep these companies in business by falling for their marketing schemes.
just out of curiosity, do you use a k&n performance sump bolt aswell? apparently they are really good, they allow for increased oil flow around the bolts thread and will solve all your engine issues.![]()
bottom line is, a ryco/ac delco/holden or any other conventional oil filter will do its job just fine... but hey its your money.
The same people that buy performance oil filters are probably also buying performance tail lights. I just get an oil filter from wherever i buy the oil from. Got a repco oil filter for my next change.
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Last edited by vxcalais_01; 29-06-2009 at 07:40 AM. Reason: No point in figthing