VS Stato V8 Manual Conversion ECU?
Hey everyone, currently doing a manual conversion on my Series II VS Stato V8, conversion i'm getting is out of a 5L 5speed VN wagon.. question is, would i be able to use the engine harness and ECU from the VN? or do i HAVE to get a VS harness and ECU?
and if i can't use the VN one, can i get it running with the Auto ECU for the time being?? Cheers
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you can run it on the vs ecu but the ecu wont see the speedo pulses and they use fuel and like too stall when coming to a stop.you can repin the ecu plugs to suit a vn ecu pretty easy or swap the harness either way there will be a few wires to change
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can i use the VS computer with VN manual memcal or what? is there a guide to repin it and mismatch parts for it to run nice? thanks
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um you cant use the manual memcal in the auto ecu to fix the problem but the repinning isnt too bad i did write up a pin swapping guide on Delcohacking.net in the ecu conversions forum
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so if i put the whole VN Engine harness into the car i can use the VN ECU? speedo im not too worried about yet but just running smooth is the main concern
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yeah just may be a few wires to swap around where the loom plugs in by the battery and under the dash
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how would i know which wires to swap around? id prefer just to be able to plug it in and drive
wh don't you just find a Manual ECU from an SS or something??... wouldnt that be easier??...
Probably not. It sounds like he already has the VN loom/ECU, so why not try to use that if he can? Not many people are willing to sell manual loom, especially for a VS V8, and separate from a conversion kit.Originally Posted by S2_VR_
It would be much faster to hack some wiring together instead of endlessly searching for something that will be outrageously overpriced.
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Just do what delcowizzid suggested. With the VS ECU you can change the pins so it can read the manual speed sensor that the VS Auto ECU already has in there and just get the memcal sorted out so you can run a manual (i.e auto codes turned off etc). You may need to do some minor changing with the wiring under the hood too.
With the VR ECU it's another story, it hasn't got the manual speed sensor info inbuilt so you need a Manual VR Computer (ECM).
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my advice (done manual conversions with both my senator and stato) dont worry about the loom or ecu because you dont need it, just wire up the lights, neutral switch and speedo and it'll be sweet. Except your engine check light will be one and when it comes to that, get foamy to make one up for you to get it to work the manual with the auto computer and itll go harder than hsvs and save allot of drama with the removal of the loom and putting it. ive done it that way to both of mine and had no issuse with them cutting out or running wrong.
oh true is he using the t5 box???.. if so you can use the VN gearbox loom with the VS ecu...
thats wat im doing... getting the VSS off an auto VN box... and plugging that into my main loom... but im also getting a VR Manual ECU so i have no problems at all plug and play really....
A T5 is a T5. The only difference will be between 6 and 8, otherwise they are not model specific as far as I know.
(Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong) Nothing has to plug into a T5, as there is nothing electronic about it, just the same as there is nothing electronic about the TH700 auto used in VN's and VP's (which is why VN's and VP's don't need new ECUs). I'm not sure how the speed sensor works though.
That is why the auto and manual loom are different. The 4L60e is the electronic variant of the TH700. This allows shift points to be mapped electronically and error codes to be logged. If standard auto equipment is used on a manual conversion, error codes are logged because, to the computer there is essentially no transmission there. Manual wiring gets rid of the features included with the auto box that are not needed by the manual box.
The only other way around this is to modify the loom and have the memcal/ECU(?) reprogrammed.
the VSS? vehicle speed sensor.....VN auto's have it ause they werent electronic.... and the manual box's use them too... VN auto and manual ECU's,Loom's and VSS are all the same...
alright... just to clear things up. its a series II VS statesman, using a T5 gearbox. and hopefully the standard ECU and wiring harness.
from what Disturbed_Vegeta has said, it'll run fine with the Auto ECU and harness???? if i send my memcal off to greenfoam and get it tuned for a manual.. it'll all be sweet?
if not - can anyone give me a detailed explanation of what to wire up to where if i can get the VN ECU?
the mechanical part im fine with, just the electronics side of things confuse me a bit. thank-you
I'd like to see you use the VN ecu and loom, howwwwever if Disturbed_vegeta is using one I took the auto codes out of and it's running well then maybe I've outdone myself and it's ok after all. But I would expect it to be better with the VN ecu ajnd a fully working speedo signal
Have done rhis conversion on my clubby will never run right with the auto ecu idles funny all the time mostly to high and fuel consumption is astronomical and you can never get the auto ecu to understand the manual speedo output as they are a different signal one uses hall effect and the other uses a transducer you can get the speedo to work but the auto ecu wont know how fast your going and will never be right although it was cool with the flames popping out on decel until i put the manual loom and ecu in
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