Bolting a t5 to a vr or vs

[thesanchez]

So i have a VS with a VR S2 manual conversion. i am wondering if i went out and bought a VS ecotec motor and dropped it in would the exisiting t5 bolt straight on or do i have to change the bellhousing to suit.

also my clutch is cable would that also have to change to hydraulic.


if there is anything else that has to change plz let me know.

cheers

[immortality]

bellhousing is the same right through the buick and ecotec range. i.e VN-VS and onwards so it will bolt straight up

can you clarify, you have VS but does it still have it's original motor? because if it does then the motor is infact a ecotec already. only the s2 VS had the getrag box with hydraulic clutch so a cable operated clutch would work just fine either way.

for a manual conversion in a auto VS you would either need to modify the auto loom and get a new memcal to suit or find a VS manual loom and PCM and swap it all over

[thesanchez]

its a vs commo thats had a vr series 2 motor and t5 put in it.

so by going off what ur saying i could drop an ecotec motor in it and the existing t5 should bolt straight on..what about the cable clutch? does that need to be replaced with a hydraulic?

Oh sorry didnt read urs fully..so the cable clutch is fine the ecotec motor...

so in fact all i need to make it a full vs again is get an ecotec v6.....CHEERS!

[V-ahhh]

lol why would somebody go to all the effort and convert a ecotec back to a buick???

[thesanchez]

not sure at all mate, just picked up the car cheap...im thinkin they blew the ecotec up so they just pulled the motor and box out of a vr and dumped it in... still goes hard as &^$# (for a 6) haha

but atleast all the hard works done...now i just need to find an L67 and im on my way

[V-ahhh]

Not sayin it's a bad thing my berlina has a v6 with the t5 hooked up and I love it just thought it was an odd thing to do.mmm manual L67 be sssweet

[_R_J_K_]

Weren't the ecotec and 3800 flywheels different though?

[maldotcom2]

Not that it's related to the OP's question, only VN series 1, it had a 6 bolt flywheel.

[_R_J_K_]

Not that it's related to the OP's question, only VN series 1, it had a 6 bolt flywheel.

Well, it is. He wants to replace the VR 3800 with an ecotec, and what if the ecotec has a different flywheel?

It's not something to do with the bolt patern (as you mentioned only VN S1 is different), but the way that the flywheel is balanced - i.e. one might be internally balanced and the other externally?

[thesanchez]

hhmmm internally balanced and externally..thats completely new news to me..i havent heard of this before. but if i was to convert it, and i came across that problem, it wouldnt be that bad....right?

[SweetWagon]

Weren't the ecotec and 3800 flywheels different though?

Only Getrag and T5 flywheels are different. remembering s1 vs ecotec still had the T5..

Getrag has dual mass flywheel which is common to covert back to the solid flywheel like the t5 as they deteriorate much easier when the car is 'abused'

So i have a VS with a VR S2 manual conversion. i am wondering if i went out and bought a VS ecotec motor and dropped it in would the exisiting t5 bolt straight on or do i have to change the bellhousing to suit.

also my clutch is cable would that also have to change to hydraulic.


if there is anything else that has to change plz let me know.

cheers

Manual + L67. Do it!

[thesanchez]

Manual + L67. Do it!

i certainly want to...the only thing is..trying to come accross one aint easy...its been 2 weeks and i cant find anything close.

[_R_J_K_]

Only Getrag and T5 flywheels are different. remembering s1 vs ecotec still had the T5..

Getrag has dual mass flywheel which is common to covert back to the solid flywheel like the t5 as they deteriorate much easier when the car is 'abused'

You didn't read my second question. It was about if S2 3800 flywheels are the same as T5 ecotec flywheels, or if they are balanced differently.

[SweetWagon]

You didn't read my second question. It was about if S2 3800 flywheels are the same as T5 ecotec flywheels, or if they are balanced differently.

Yes they are the same. All the v6 t5 flywheels are the same except VN s1, not sure what you mean about balancing they can only be balanced one way, wouldnt be any different..