No reverse in my vr :(

[whitevrboi]

As the title suggests I have no reverse in my vr v6. It happened the other night when I shifted from reverse to drive a bit too eagerly and instead of going forward it just revved. I had to put it into Park then back to drive to get it to move.

However now my:

Neutral and Drive both make the car go
Reverse is Park
Park is Park

The only neutral I have is when its in neutral and the engine is off (makes it difficult when having to reverse off the front lawn, out of car parks, back down driveways...basically anything where reverse is usually used)

I've read about the 'sunshell' being cracked but i'm not really sure what this is. There is no grinding or weird noises and the car drives perfect apart from my confused gears. Any help as to a prompt solution would be great.

Cheers Jack

[_R_J_K_]

From what I have read, loosing reverse is one of the first symptoms of a failing gearbox (if you don't count the fact that reverse has failed as a failure in itself). You would probably be better off taking it to a transmission specialist.

[hako]

If the sunshell has sheared you will lose all gears and have no movement except for a stiffish attempt by the car to move...and the nothing. Your problem may just be the selector linkage to the auto box has slipped...unusual but not unheard of. You will need to get under the car (on ramps...safely) and watch how the selector (drivers side) moves whilst someone in the car (engine off) moves the T bar. With a bit of luck it will be this.

[whitevrboi]

Cheers Hako will give that a go this afternoon. That actually sounds like it could be the problem. What does anyone else think?

Cheers Jack

[v6lux]

However now my:

Reverse is Park

Lets lift this up a level and we should get something straight - Park is Park and Neutral is not Park, as there is a Locking Pawl in Park to lock the output shaft of the transmission.

If you mean the Park Pawl is locking the Drive Shaft in the reverse position, then the linkage is out of adjustment!

I'm guessing you actually mean Reverse is Neutral?

[whitevrboi]

Well when i put it in reverse i cant roll it by pushing like it is still in park which is why i said reverse is park...when the engines on i cant find any gear that will allow me to push it freely ie. backwards out of a car park. I have to turn the car to reds then put it in neutral in order for me to be able to push it. I appreciate the input

[v6lux]

I'm no auto expert, but either the shift linkage is out of whack or bent and/or internal damage.

Check the linkage first! You may have a broken engine mount to cause this.

[whitevrboi]

ok so is it an easy fix if its the linkage? like is it just a case of tapping back into place or is it more involved than that? and will i be able to see it all from under the car without removing anything?

Sorry for all the questions, I've never had anything to do with a transmission before

[hako]

First thing you need to do is get the car up on ramps - I lost a good mate of mine when his car collapsed on him.
Once it is up on the ramps, crawl under the car and locate the gear change linkage where it connects to the transmission. Then I'd get someone to move the T bar from P to L whilst you watch what the linkage does at the transmission end. You should be able to pretty quickly figure out if it is actually working.....but really you need to get a Gregorys manual so you can check these things step by step.

[whitevrboi]

Cheers hako, yea i've got a max elerys so i'll have a flick through that before i jump under. i'll post up how i go on the weekend. I really appreciate everyones input

[v6lux]

Also check your 3 engine mounts. You can do this with a jack on the transmission and each side of the sump with flat wood to spread the pressure so you don't bend the sump. Don't go too high if they are all intact. Just check to see if they are in 1 piece. If you have a broken mount, this can alter the shift linkage when you dump it into a gear with high revs.

[b.e.a.s.t.]

Check your solonoid i had the same problem. Mines gd as new now.

[whitevrboi]

Cheers guys will check both of those too...how would i go about checking the solenoid? a multi meter?

[hako]

If you have a bad solenoid it will leave a fault code and the car will still drive. Checking error codes VR/VS (Revised)
Have you checked the linkage yet?

[whitevrboi]

Ok well i havent got an error code so i'm guessing its the linkage...n nah i havent checked it yet, it'll probably be a saturday morning job as i'm working all week. If it is bent can i bend it back into place or will i have to replace it?

[whitevrboi]

Ok so I had a look underneath this morning. The linkage seems fine, its selecting the correct gear and holding it as well so its not jumping out and doesnt seem sloppy. The only problem I found is that there is a fair bit of sideways movement in it. Probably only a centimetre or so to either side. It seems like the movement is coming from where the linkage goes through the body pan to the gear selector. Should I just take it to a Transmission mob? I really appreciate everyones help

[Brett_jjj]

Yeah, if you cant find anything thats obviously wrong, take it somewhere and get them to check it out.Let us know how you go.