Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: checking coil packs without multi meter

  1. #1
    Ride
    vs acclaim

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    gippsland vic
    Posts
    53

    Default checking coil packs without multi meter

    hi all

    i was scanning through the forums reading about testing coil packs as mine is suspicious and i dont own a multi meter.
    came across one that explained how to do it with out one.

    turn car off take leads off coil packs ( working one at coil pack at a time), start car up and check spark is jumping between posts, if it jumps anywhere else the coil is stuffed it read.

    tried this on mine and the spark on the middle coil pack was jumping to the pack and not between the posts.

    going to get coil pack from wreckers to swap it over tomorrow. if this works it is a simple way to test them without the right tools. hope this helps a few out there
    only milk and juice should come in 2 litres

  2. #2
    hako is offline Donating Member
    Ride
    VS11 BT1 V6

    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Toowoomba SE QLD
    Posts
    7,344

    Default

    That test doesn't sound right to me - you should be connecting the 2 leads from the one coil to 2 sparkplugs with very large spark gaps. Make sure the plugs are earthed.
    The way you describe can destroy the coil as the high voltage finds the shortest path to earth and in doing so can burn a hole thru the coil windings.
    As described, the spark cannot jump between the 2 posts as they are the same potential...they are connected to each other. Pretty sure what I've said is correct...but I ain't always right...
    Good Luck.

  3. #3
    Ride
    vs acclaim

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    gippsland vic
    Posts
    53

    Default

    on the first and last coil packs the spark jumped between posts. ( visable constant spark between posts)
    only milk and juice should come in 2 litres

  4. #4
    Ride
    VN S1 (was VR) V6 Hilux

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    340

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hako View Post
    The way you describe can destroy the coil as the high voltage finds the shortest path to earth and in doing so can burn a hole thru the coil windings
    Yep!

    A quick way to waste money is to destroy your good coil packs with this method. I'm sure licensed mechanics will promote this method when a DIY Pro named macka75 asks that same question!

    You can get a Multi Meter for $5.

  5. #5
    Ride
    vs acclaim

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    gippsland vic
    Posts
    53

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by v6lux View Post
    Yep!

    A quick way to waste money is to destroy your good coil packs with this method. I'm sure licensed mechanics will promote this method when a DIY Pro named macka75 asks that same question!

    You can get a Multi Meter for $5.
    if u read the post i started saying i found it going through forums, it is NOT something i just came up with. i cant get to a multi meter as my car is not running right and i dont want to risk driving it.
    here is the post i read.
    is my coil pack stuffed????
    " DIY pro" i have never claimed to be
    i have spent many years around cars but have always had older holdens and a vq v8 caprice, so im still learning about coil packs and alot other things assosiated with newer cars, thats why i ask on this forum.
    only milk and juice should come in 2 litres

  6. #6
    Ride
    vr commodore

    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    1

    Default

    hi you will need to get an old spark plug and tack weld a alligator clip to upper threaded section of plug(hex section) then remove the earth electrode from the plug, so the spark has to jump across to side of plug,,this will not damage coils. Now the old spark plug is converted into spark tester. Now hook the tester between lead and coil post. eg alligator clip on coil post and lead onto top of tester. Run the engine and check to see if spark is jumping across ok,,Be careful not to touch as you will get nasty shock,, Also if engine missfires while doing this,it means coil pack or leads faulty on that section. Could also mean module under the coils is faulty also... If you find that spark is not jumping across, swap coils to see if problem tranfers to other cyls. this will only work if you have three seperate coils. This is confusing i know.

  7. #7
    Ride
    VN S1 (was VR) V6 Hilux

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    340

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by macka75 View Post
    " DIY pro"
    Sorry dude, you prolly are good at DIY and the remark was actually intended to be aimed at "Jo-Blow" (which I should have typed instead) to deter others from using that method.

    Anyway, I had a faulty coil pack and the engine was running smooth-as at all revs including free and under load. Problem was I was getting occasional backfires.

    I have not tried turbo45's method, so can't dispute it, but I believe the meter is the ultimate method. The faulty coil was easily found and replaced.

  8. #8
    Ride
    vs commodore

    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Tamworth NSW
    Posts
    4,505

    Default

    Ive seen these coils show up ok on a multimeter but still cause a misfire.The best way is to get a spare coil to use for testing purposes if your engine is running bad or has a miss etc.It took me ages to find what was causing a miss after testing the coils on a multimeter and they showed they were fine,but it ended up that one coil was stuffed anyway.

  9. #9
    Ride
    vs acclaim

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    gippsland vic
    Posts
    53

    Default

    the problem coil was found. the test i used did work but i guess im lucky not to have stuffed the other coils. but it did show me the problem coil.
    so much knowledge can be learnt from this forum, and i am slowly learning the wrongs from rights.
    thanks for the help over the past few weeks all.

    the spark plug tester sounds like a great idea.
    only milk and juice should come in 2 litres

  10. #10
    acarmody is offline Donati..Whoa Green
    Ride
    VX Berlina

    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    4,474

    Default

    I don't think its been mentioned, and I know its obvious but I'm going to point it out anyway. If testing the coils by disconnecting (instead of using test coil), make sure you disable the injectors on those cylinders. Safety first.
    -Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
    James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
    -Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
    P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
    -Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
    Ronald Reagan (1986)

  11. #11
    Ride
    vs commodore

    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Tamworth NSW
    Posts
    4,505

    Default

    If the engine is run just long enough to check the coils for spark,a minute or two at the most.Your not going to need to worry about disconnecting the injectors.The small amount of fuel injected into the cylinder while its not firing will just evaporate pretty much straight away anyway.

  12. #12
    acarmody is offline Donati..Whoa Green
    Ride
    VX Berlina

    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    4,474

    Default

    I know its not a real danger but I always believe better safe then sorry, besides it only takes about 10 seconds to disconnect the injector wiring harness.

    I know a bloke who turned his car over for about 5 minutes (bloody good battery) and it wasn't starting, I told him good luck when it finally does start.
    -Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
    James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
    -Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
    P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
    -Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
    Ronald Reagan (1986)

Similar Threads

  1. msd coil packs
    By bigneilsen in forum V6 Development And Modification
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 25-11-2009, 08:10 PM
  2. [VIC] 3x COIL PACKS VP - VY V6
    By VS_WPN in forum Parts And Other Items For Sale
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 27-10-2009, 11:57 AM
  3. coil packs??
    By batty_123 in forum VT - VX Holden Commodore (1997 - 2002)
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 22-12-2008, 09:40 PM
  4. Coil Packs
    By fitzy2005 in forum VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 21-09-2008, 05:31 PM
  5. Vy coil packs
    By sixshooter in forum VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 18-02-2006, 10:37 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72