If anyone can tell me what's wrong with my car they're a genius
So I made a thread yesterday about my car not starting. Read it here if you haven't seen it already Car not stating (again).
So, today I get a new starter motor as per instructions and fit it in. Easy job didn't take long. Problem is car still makes the exact same noise.
A basic run down:
Got a new battery
Water pump was leaking - bought a new one arriving monday
Decided to do a cooling system flush
Took thermostat housing off to get thermostat out for a new one
Put coolant cleaner down top radiator house
Put housing back on with no gasket or thermostat in
Started car (it started fine) and noticed coolant cleaner spraying everywhere from the housing
Stopped car, cleaned up coolant and put a new gasket in as well as thermostat
Tried to start car and NOTHING!
What the hell happened? I got told starter motor so I got a new one, but still nothing.
Here's a video of the sound it's making.
maybe the teeth on the flywheel are worn or starter motor is getting stuck, are the battery terminals tight? coolant change has nothing to do with this imo.
sounds like its not getting enough power ..... the vecheals at work when they have a flat battery make that noise ... ummm thinking
do u have a volt meter?
Have you checked the "START" relay under the bonnet near the fuses,this relay supplies the starter solenoid with power when the key is turned to start.Just swap it for one of the other relays that are the same type, such as the horn relay, and then see if it starts.Also does the engine actually turn over by hand?
I just cleaned the battery terminals and still nothing. I tried to jump start the car with my brothers yesterday and still nothing. I just don't understand how it can work one minute and not the next.
trying jump starting again put run your positive straight to the starter motor and negative to any good sort of earth on the vecheal .... almost never fails =)
Last edited by 1SIKR8; 11-04-2010 at 03:14 PM. Reason: spelling error
take out the starter and hook up the wires and get someone to turn the key as u hold it, see if it works it could be faulty even new. if it works or even try this first, rotate the motor by hand by putting a socket on the crankshaft then try again.
i just had a thought, is it auto ?
Swapped relays and still nothing.Originally Posted by Brett_jjj
is it an auto or manual? if its a manual put it in gear and try and move the car a little bit to get different spot on flywheel, see if that helps ???
Yeah its auto
your netural sensor might be ****ed ... if all else i've said fails. check where your neutral sensor is... and replace it .... =)
could be the solinoid on the starter motor.
already changed starter motor
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hows your engine block earth is it tight and clean ???
just try what i said, try jump starting direct to the positive of the starter motor and the earth lead somewhere solid on the car as a earth and try that. if that dosn't work, go to the neutral sensor on your transmission ... then if that fails ... eeep
Woodgrain Nut
You stated that coolant sprayed everywhere... did the DFI module or the ignition coils get wet by any chance? They do not like to get wet.
"..of mice and men.."
That sound is familiar, but only time I've ever heard it is either a dodgy starter motor/solenoid, or not enough power to turn it properly.
You say it's a new battery, so I'm assuming not that.
But you also say new start motor, so shouldn't be that either, although dud new starters are possible, but then so are dud new batteries.
So just in case, to eliminate anything else, I would say to disconnect your battery, and check every electrical connection you can find in your engine bay which 'may'(even if unlikely) have gotten wet.
Give them all a quick spray of WD40 and blow them dry, just to be on the safe side, since, as you said, this problem started after* spraying the engine with cooling system flush.
Short of that, try pulling out all of your spark plugs, then try turning the motor over, just to make sure nothing is in the cylinders stopping it form turning over.
It may be a pain in the bum, but maybe pull the new starter back motor off and check, as has been mentioned, that the teeth on the fly wheel have not been chewed off at the spot where the starter motor is trying to engage.
All I can come up with at this point..
Last edited by BoNeZ-01; 11-04-2010 at 03:50 PM. Reason: typo*
On the 7th day, God created Holden, then on the 8th day, God created Ford, to keep idiots out of Holden's.
The DFI module or coils if stuffed, wont stop the engine from winding over.
was it a brnd new one or reconditinoned. and the solinoid could still be fulty from new
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Remove the starter and power it up with jumper leads from the battery.You will soon see if the solenoid is working or not.It sounds like a power supply problem,thats why I suggested checking the start relay.It supplies power to the starter solenoid when the key is turned to start.Ive seen them cause similar issues.
my earily sujestion about the neutral sensor, scrap that, tried starting my sisters VT up in 3rd ( its a auto ) and it dosn't make any noise at all ... so umm yea back to the drawing bored .....
Last edited by 1SIKR8; 11-04-2010 at 03:52 PM. Reason: spelling error AGAIN !
Alright so I was fiddling around and turned the car to gas (forgot to mention it was LPG) and tried to start it.
The machine gun ticking noise stopped now it ticks ONCE and then a high pitched noise is heard. The LPG turnover gauge light switches off and doesn't come back on until I take the key out and put it back in.
Now when I even try to start it on petrol it doesn't do anything, just the high pitched noise and turns off the turnover gauge light..
operation HQ under way.
your battery is stuffed. what does your interor light do when you try and start the car...you can have 12v on the battery but the cca (cold cranking amps) could be stuffed seen it many times. and when jump starting the bettery is fused out and not getting through.
swap the battery over and see what happins
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