Wreck help

[maginoodle]

Hi all,
A mate of mine has asked me to help him get his vs ss wreck going to use the motor and box in another car.
I havent got the remote so the security is on. Have left the reds on until the flashing light goes out.
There isnt any spark, can hear the fuel pump, didnt bother checking the injector power yet.
I think the problem is with the part in the pic cause the outer casing was broken in the smash.
Can someone identify it for me? And is it in the spark system?


Also do they have a maf? If so can i use a v6 one(have one i can use).
Heres a pic of what i am working on.


Any help aprreciated.

Cheers Shane

[moff_man]

that top picture is of the ignition module, it is required for the engine to run, its like the dfi module on a 6 that sits under the coil pack.

the maf is up the back in the same spot as a vr, they dont use a air flow meter as far as i know

[Brett_jjj]

Also that ignition module has to be earthed(or grounded), as its usually bolted to the body which automatically earths it.

[maginoodle]

thanks, i will try and get another one. I drilled the remaining bolt hole and bolted it on one of the strut mount bolts.

[wortus]

thanks, i will try and get another one. I drilled the remaining bolt hole and bolted it on one of the strut mount bolts.

It's common for the solder joints where the large transistor package connects to the circuit board to fail, the joint can crack or even start to burn the circuit board. I'd have a look at the inside of it first if the car does not start after you earth it and try. A friend bought one from a wrecker and it stil worked however the solder joints were not far off causing a problem.

[maginoodle]

Hi all, i tried the ign module on another car and it ran.
I fixed one wire and put it back on this car and can get it to fire with crc down the t/b.
I have no injector pulse. Any ideas?

Cheers Shane

[delcowizzid]

security stops injection pulses

[moff_man]

have you tried the module in the dissy? or the disy its self?

[maginoodle]

I also replaced the bcm. So the security shouldnt be the prob, the flashing light goes out. I just got a wrecked vs v6 and used the ign barrel, bcm out of it so that i have a working remote.

Cheers Shane

[keza87]

Considering you can get it to fire with the CRC indicates the ignition system is good to go.
Even though you have a working BCM with remote the ECU still needs to be linked to the BCM to make it run correctly. This is what would be holding you back.
You have four options.
1. Get the BCM linked to the ECU using a Tech 2
2. Get a key to match the original BCM
3. Get a memcal with the security disabled
4. Get a matching BCM and ECU from a V8.

BTW I have heard the V6 and V8 ECU are the same just with a different memcal. Has anyone confirmed this?

[delcowizzid]

vs v8 the ecu is the same as a vr v6/v8 ecu not the same as a vs v6 one

[maginoodle]

vs v8 the ecu is the same as a vr v6/v8 ecu not the same as a vs v6 one

Hi delco, so if i use an ecu from a vr(i have one) and put the memcal(that is the removeable chip in the ecu isnt it?)i should be right to go.

Because i didnt have the key for the original barrel i changed the complete barrel, so now i have the key and remote that match the bcm i put in.
It still didnt have injector pulse. So i had another look and realized i didnt put the earth wire back on the ign housing. It now has injector pulse but it only runs for about 10-20 seconds and wont rev. Is that because the ecu and the bcm isnt linked?

Cheers Shane

[Brett_jjj]

The VS doesnt need the BCM matched or linked to the ECU with a Tech1 or Tech 2 scantool.Only the VT and later models use this setup.Not the VS or earlier.With the VS,as long as the ignition keyhead matches the BCM,it will start.

[maginoodle]

Lesson 1 for today- check the simple things.

Came home today and decided to kick it over, went first go and didnt stall. Tried to work out what i have done and the only thing i can think off is pushing it out of my shed. The rear entrance to my shed is downhill, so i am thinking lack off petrol in the tank.

Thanks everyone for the help.

Cheers Shane