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    Default i put a vr statesman body loom into my vr wagon now it wont start

    well as stated in title i swap a vr statesman loom in to my wagon so i could put climate control level 3 cluster power windows inside lights ect i got it all in no poblem but now the car wont start ive checked everything 3 times from the statesman computer bcm and tds and it still reads error 31 can anyone help me out with info its the first time ive had anything to do with tds ect

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    Can you hear the fuel pump prime when you turn the key on?
    code 31 is theft deterrent signal i think, have you used the key head from the statesman aswell?? you need the ECU BCM and key head from the stato
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    there no fuel pump action at all ive used the bcm ecu and tds out of the stato with the stato key head but with my key bit

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    as above you need the matched key head to run with the tdm (theft deterrent module) and bcm the tdm is the immobilizer in the upper models but still communicates with the bcm
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    you may have to make sure the body loom has the same pin outs as the lower spec loom some may be in diffrent spots
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    Quote Originally Posted by moff_man View Post
    as above you need the matched key head to run with the tdm (theft deterrent module) and bcm the tdm is the immobilizer in the upper models but still communicates with the bcm
    This. Make sure you swapped keyheads

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    is the little red security light flashing still when you turn to key on to acc power?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moff_man View Post
    you may have to make sure the body loom has the same pin outs as the lower spec loom some may be in diffrent spots
    i used the full body loom ecu bcm and tds out of a statesman so it should be fine as there is no low loom left i so thought it would be an ezy swap lol WRONG

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandit10 View Post
    is the little red security light flashing still when you turn to key on to acc power?
    dont know as i sold the secruity light switch thing befor i made up my mind to put all the stato stuff in the wagon can i just ring one up

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    Quote Originally Posted by tivoom View Post
    i used the full body loom ecu bcm and tds out of a statesman so it should be fine as there is no low loom left i so thought it would be an ezy swap lol WRONG
    Yes but you need the keyhead that is matched to the new BCM

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky View Post
    This. Make sure you swapped keyheads
    oh yes i swaped heads although ill need a new one soon cos its doing mine in lol

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    does the engine turn over?? if it does then the problem wont be the keyhead, the security cuts the power that turns the starter over
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    yes the engine dose turn theres just no fuel pump action and when it come up error 31 i just went arrr **** it i hate wireing ect

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    Code 31 - Theft Deterrent Signal Missing

    Its definately the key or the bcm. Battery dead in the remote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky View Post
    Code 31 - Theft Deterrent Signal Missing

    Its definately the key or the bcm. Battery dead in the remote?
    the key can remote can lock and unlock.
    the statesman the stuff come from was running 3 days ago thats whats got me ive been over ever plug fuse and relay again and still no fuel every thing else works lights/blinkers/level 3 cluster/warning lights/windscreen wipers/door locks and brake lights thats all the acc i have pluged in atm as i still havent hooked up the climate control and radio to test them yet could that be a problem??

    thanx for all the help guys

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    if the engine turns over i would say the problem lays somewhere else.. disconnect the battery for a few mins then try starting it again if it doesnt fire then try reading the error codes again see if code 31 comes back again.
    Are your rear lights working?? pretty sure the fuel pump power wire runs down the same loom/plug as the rear lights (drivers side footwell) maybe just double check you have got every plug back in and there isnt one hiding
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