VR Statesman 5.0 Starting problem

[Jimmish]

Hi Guys just wandering if some one could help my statesman will start after the car has been left for 12 hours or so and run but it runs very rich blows lots of fuel out the exaust and black smoke it seems to find its self after a minut or so if i give it a few revs it seems ok i can drive it no problem but if i turn it off it wont start again it just turns over freely with out even a fire unless u hold your foot flat then it will fire and stummer and carry on but wont start iv replacet the Trottle Positioning Sensor and the Map Sensor but still does the same its getting plenty of fuel so thats not the issue please help.

[BlackVXGTS]

Probably need to clean out the throttle body and the IAT (input air temperature) sensor. Also check your air filter to make sure it's not blocked.

[Jimmish]

Throttle body has been cleaned ,Air filter is new Ill try cleaning the IAT thanks for the help

[hsv91ss]

maybe leaking injectors causing it to flood?

[Brett_jjj]

Definitely check for leaking fuel injectors,the hard starting and black smoke on startup are classic signs of leaking injectors.

[VP Pursuit]

Could also be a faulty distributor or coil, as unburnt fuel and hard starting can be associated with that also...but check injectors first as they are the easiest to eliminate and get to...

[Jimmish]

maybe leaking injectors causing it to flood?

Thanks dude u hit the nail on the head it is a leaking Injector!!!!!

[Jimmish]

Hay all thanks for the help but now I have another problem iv had the injectors done it starts and runs great no smoke but now it has a miss but only when u flatten it free revs no problem and don’t miss a beat but when u flatten it driving down the road it starts to get a miss at 3 thousand revs and onwards once driving at 90ks it runs smooth as but when its under load it seems to miss any help would be much appreciated it has had the injectors replaced new Map sensor and new TPS its getting new plugs and leads on Sunday its seems electronic as the taco jumps a little when it misses

[m1chael1o1]

its a statesman .....theres ur problem

[Jimmish]

its a statesman .....theres ur problem

U got nothing helpful to say why say anything at all !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thebestsv8]

U got nothing helpful to say why say anything at all !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would have let the OP down slowly but hey, he cut to the chase.

[m1chael1o1]

U got nothing helpful to say why say anything at all !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im just helping you in the long run trust me

[Jimmish]

Yeh well I’m stuck with it for the moment so it at least needs to run right iv tried to hand it down to the wife but she don’t want it so i got to fix it

[thebestsv8]

Is it an auto or manual.

Did the battery over-derp?

Check that first or ring the nrma to check

[m1chael1o1]

Yeh well I’m stuck with it for the moment so it at least needs to run right iv tried to hand it down to the wife but she don’t want it so i got to fix it

Just saying sometimes then can be costly and alot of things go and arent cheap, here is an idea would you be interested in swapping it for my goat. Shes 12 months, fully trained, the works basically

[Jimmish]

Ok your on ill swap

[m1chael1o1]

Ok your on ill swap

Sounds like we have a deal...ill prep her and send you pictures tomorrow

[Jimmish]

Awsome looking forward to it

[m1chael1o1]

here is a video i took of her in action earlier this month

YouTube - Goat licking electric fence

[BlackVXGTS]

If the tachometer jumps when it's missing I would be suspecting either the coil and/or the ignition module.

[Maxxiz]

I have the exact problem.. How hard are the injectors to replace/clean? Whats my best options?

[VrWagz1]

If its under load that it misses, i would tend to think dizzy cap. But its one of those magical faults that could be anything, I would tend to think its electrical and would try the following. Hall sensor, dizzy cap, spark plug leads, spark plugs, coil, dfi module.
For purly a money saving thing start with the cheaper stuff; Spark plugs, leads, dizzy cap and coil. If you get to the hall sensor its probably easier to buy a whole dizzy. If you have a friend sowhere with a efi304, swap the dfi's over to see if that helps the problem before shelling out for one.

[Jimmish]

It ended up being the dizzycap that was causing the miss the clown that replaced the injectors must of lent on it why changing them

I have the exact problem.. How hard are the injectors to replace/clean? Whats my best options?

[BlackVXGTS]

Good to hear you have solved the problem, although I don't see why anyone replacing injectors would have gone anywhere near the distributor cap. It's difficult to get to at the best of times.