Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: VS Motor stuffed. Opinions on whether to fix etc

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    38

    Default VS Motor stuffed. Opinions on whether to fix etc

    Managed to kill the motor in a VS. Trying to figure out what the best option is financially.

    Pretty sure the heads have had it, water disappearing and running as rough as guts, would it be best to drop in a reco motor, have the heads fixed or just sell as a wreck and start again?

  2. #2
    pjdm1980's Avatar
    pjdm1980 is offline The Holden Hunter!
    Ride
    E1 GTS BUILD NO# 007, VP Calais Interntional.

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Geelong, Victoria
    Posts
    1,942

    Default

    Depend on the amount of klm's and condition of the motor and car.
    PERFORMANCE MODS- JTG Liquid injection, Under driven pulley, Pacemaker extractors, 3" X-force system, Cold air intake, MAF Less tune 267.9 RWKW'S
    http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...ber-007-a.html
    Yes I know, if you get anymore manly you are in danger of making yourself pregnant!


  3. #3
    Ride
    vn s pack 5spd/ vs calais S1

    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    125

    Default

    buy another motor, n put it in,.. den u can sell ur old motor for wah ever it'l go for it keep it as spare parts.
    cheapest way n worth doing if the car itself is in good coniditon.

  4. #4
    Ride
    VP calais, VJ valiant, BG5 legacy

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    New Plymouth, New Zealand
    Posts
    1,059

    Default

    Its not really a big job to pull the heads off on these motors, why not just take them off and plane them or fit a second hand set?
    Quote Originally Posted by QuickVRII95 View Post
    Elaborate, For All Of Us... How The Hell Is A Commodore A Friggin 4-Stroke...???
    Where Are You Getting Your Facts From...???
    Quote Originally Posted by QuickVRII95 View Post
    You All ARE Wrong About A Commodore Being A 4 Stroke Engine... Or Any Car For A Matter Of Fact...
    A V6 CAN'T Run On ONLY 1 Cylinder... IT'S A 24 STROKE ENGINE... 4 CYCLES Per Cylinder... "Basically Three V-Twins Together

  5. #5
    hako is offline Donating Member
    Ride
    VS11 BT1 V6

    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Toowoomba SE QLD
    Posts
    7,344

    Default

    Before you commit yourself why not find out where the coolant is leaking from. I'd wager it's the inlet manifold gasket unless you have overheated the engine recently. Ecotec heads very rarely fail unless the engine is cooked.
    "If anyone disagrees with anything I say, I am quite prepared not only to retract it, but also to deny under oath that I ever said it." --T. Lehrer
    "The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that you've got it made." -- Jean Giraudoux

  6. #6
    edals's Avatar
    edals is online now Blues Brother # 1
    Ride
    VY 2002 Wagon, VX 2001 Sedan

    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    QLD/NSW Boardish
    Posts
    1,089

    Default

    Well i hope the VRs are more tough with the gaskets cause the Mrs has over heated twice, Blew the manifold coolant connector and then the thermostat failed, still seems smooth though. Its never flogged so fingers crossed lol.
    I would prolly throw another motor in the car, you can pick them up for about $500 with 120-180k, or by a good condition one, overhaul it then you know its good forever

  7. #7
    RX25SE's Avatar
    RX25SE is offline Real cars are steel cars.
    Ride
    vsII acclaim wagon

    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    1,069

    Default

    I would fit a second hand VT/X engine, just fit your inlet manifold.

    They seem to leak less and run a little better.
    If I told you I was a compulsive liar, would you believe me?

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    38

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hako View Post
    Before you commit yourself why not find out where the coolant is leaking from. I'd wager it's the inlet manifold gasket unless you have overheated the engine recently. Ecotec heads very rarely fail unless the engine is cooked.
    Have redone the inlet gasket, went great for about a week then started disappearing again. The thing has over heated a few times in heavy traffic since.

    I threw some Chemiweld in as a stop gap but I had a thought today that perhaps that's where the prob is? Can that shit get into the motor and do some damage?

    Going to get some quotes on each option, but I think I'll get a quote on the aircon while I'm at it, if that's going to cost upward of a grand as well, I'll scrap for sure. The body is in good nick so I reckon it'll sell.

    The car has 230K on the clock BTW.
    Last edited by Barto76; 03-12-2010 at 12:45 PM.

  9. #9
    hako is offline Donating Member
    Ride
    VS11 BT1 V6

    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Toowoomba SE QLD
    Posts
    7,344

    Default

    Chemiweld should not hurt the engine. If it went OK for a week after doing the inlet manifold gasket, then maybe the inlet manifold gasket mating surfaces are corroded so bad that the gasket is not sealing properly.
    "If anyone disagrees with anything I say, I am quite prepared not only to retract it, but also to deny under oath that I ever said it." --T. Lehrer
    "The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that you've got it made." -- Jean Giraudoux

  10. #10
    justbad4you's Avatar
    justbad4you is offline IF YOR NOT A HOLDEN
    Ride
    97 VT BERLINA/ 98 VS SIII MALOO (RED) LX SLR5000

    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    MELBOURNE S/E BAYSIDE
    Posts
    1,616

    Default

    Id chuck in a new dong....plenty around and if you lucky you may get a smashed car with a motor with very low ks.if you are even luckier you may even get a super sharged 1 for under 800 bucks with low ks....pays too loook around and wait for waht your wnating.god luck and best wishes...ps if your in melb let meknow and ill atke a look see for you and see whats out there and get back to you with the best price i can find you 1 for.....thanks again
    We ALL HAVE 1 THING IN COMMON:THE RELENTLESS PURSUIT OF GRIP

  11. #11

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    38

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hako View Post
    Chemiweld should not hurt the engine. If it went OK for a week after doing the inlet manifold gasket, then maybe the inlet manifold gasket mating surfaces are corroded so bad that the gasket is not sealing properly.
    This is my theory as well, picked up another intake manifold that's in better shape before the running rough incident. Just did an oil change as, the oil was very black and sludgy.

  12. #12

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    38

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by justbad4you View Post
    Id chuck in a new dong....plenty around and if you lucky you may get a smashed car with a motor with very low ks.if you are even luckier you may even get a super sharged 1 for under 800 bucks with low ks....pays too loook around and wait for waht your wnating.god luck and best wishes...ps if your in melb let meknow and ill atke a look see for you and see whats out there and get back to you with the best price i can find you 1 for.....thanks again
    Cheers for the offer and I would accept that, but unfortunately I'm in Perth. If any Perth people know a good place to get an engine swap, I'd greatly appreciate it.

    I live in an apartment block and dont have a shed of my own, so I'll have to find someone who can do it.

  13. #13
    James39's Avatar
    James39 is offline Gave up on VL's
    Ride
    1995 VS Acclaim & 1992 Holden Barina

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Newcastle NSW
    Posts
    876

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by justbad4you View Post
    Id chuck in a new dong....plenty around and if you lucky you may get a smashed car with a motor with very low ks.if you are even luckier you may even get a super sharged 1 for under 800 bucks with low ks....pays too loook around and wait for waht your wnating.god luck and best wishes...ps if your in melb let meknow and ill atke a look see for you and see whats out there and get back to you with the best price i can find you 1 for.....thanks again



    Seems a bit much when it only appears to be an issue with the inlet manifold!
    Should make sure everything is clean before putting a new inlet manifold gasket on otherwise it will fail again.

  14. #14
    calais24/7's Avatar
    calais24/7 is offline Mucca Mad Boys
    Ride
    VS Calais II 5L, 98 rodeo v6

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Canberra
    Posts
    1,473

    Default

    Honestly man today alone i seen someone getting rid of an ecotec for free and another for 60 bucks. Both claimed to be good nic. Although you could probly argue that but the point is these engines aren't worth shit. And if you can find some friends or someone to swap it cheap you'll be set. Thats if you cant fix your current one

  15. #15

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    38

    Default

    Can you believe this? It was only a cracked spark plug. It's running OK again. Still wouldn't mind putting another motor in it in another 10-20k km as I reckon I've shortened the life of the thing anyway will all the over heating.

    Reckon the chemi-weld has slowed the water loss right down as it's idling smoother and it's not drying up quickly.

    Found a second hand intake manifold but it's got some slight corrosion around the water jackets. I want to get the surface of it cleaned up, looked in the yellowpages online using keywords like 'milling' and 'machining' but it's all mining companies and stuff like that, any suggestions on who to look for to do the work would be greatly appreciated.

  16. #16
    Ride
    VP calais, VJ valiant, BG5 legacy

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    New Plymouth, New Zealand
    Posts
    1,059

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Barto76 View Post
    online using keywords like 'milling' and 'machining' but it's all mining companies and stuff like that, any suggestions on who to look for to do the work would be greatly appreciated.
    Search for 'engine rebuilders' - milling and machining of engine parts is pretty much all they do.

    Also, chemiweld is horrible stuff. It does hurt engines. Only use it on shitters.
    Quote Originally Posted by QuickVRII95 View Post
    Elaborate, For All Of Us... How The Hell Is A Commodore A Friggin 4-Stroke...???
    Where Are You Getting Your Facts From...???
    Quote Originally Posted by QuickVRII95 View Post
    You All ARE Wrong About A Commodore Being A 4 Stroke Engine... Or Any Car For A Matter Of Fact...
    A V6 CAN'T Run On ONLY 1 Cylinder... IT'S A 24 STROKE ENGINE... 4 CYCLES Per Cylinder... "Basically Three V-Twins Together


Similar Threads

  1. canabl ute stuffed motor
    By canabl in forum V8 Development and Modification
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 16-05-2009, 09:38 PM
  2. Starter motor stuffed?
    By Tim from SA in forum Electrical Wiring / Questions
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 17-09-2008, 09:37 PM
  3. Wiper Motor Stuffed?
    By fitzy2005 in forum VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 19-04-2006, 10:17 PM
  4. Starter motor stuffed?
    By Peasant in forum Electrical Wiring / Questions
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 30-11-2005, 10:13 PM
  5. stuffed starter motor
    By vg_ute in forum VN - VP Holden Commodore (1988 - 1993)
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 03-10-2005, 11:49 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72