Performance Shift Module VS stage 2 shift kit

[justbad4you]

whats the better of the two for take off ? my top end is fine...having an auto on a v8 is little slow of the mark for me,,so what of the 2 items above would be (better) cheeers

[D3V14NT]

I can't see either having an effect on take off? Your 1-2 shift would be improved no doubt there but as for your take off I think you'd be better off looking at a high stall converter.

[justbad4you]

WHAT WOULD A high stall converter cost up against a stage 2?.

I can't see either having an effect on take off? Your 1-2 shift would be improved no doubt there but as for your take off I think you'd be better off looking at a high stall converter.

[acarmody]

Stall/Torque converters start at about $500 and go up from there. And that's just to supply the parts. And then your car would be less powerful below the stall point.

I would go diff gears first. Stallie for when you get a cam.

[justbad4you]

diff gears? i just want more launch on take off from the auto without doing the gears if i can? the 185i hsv plenty of guts and go(just bugger all on take off or not how i would like it lol)>>>

Stall/Torque converters start at about $500 and go up from there. And that's just to supply the parts. And then your car would be less powerful below the stall point.

I would go diff gears first. Stallie for when you get a cam.

[acarmody]

Well a higher RPM stallie will allow you to hold the brakes down longer in the RPM range and allow you to 'launch' higher in your power band, but you will lose some milage in normal driving since you will need more gas to tack-off normally. Also 'stalling' it up so high will generate a LOT of heat and trannies absolutely hate that, so a big trannie cooler would definitely be in order.

But seriously what tyres are you running? If you can't break traction with stock tyres doing a 2000rpm stallie dump with the stock stallie than there's something wrong with your car. So unless you have some really grippy tyres, I wouldn't worry about a bigger stallie.

[Brett_jjj]

As mentioned,lower diff gears will help get it off the line way quicker the the standard 3.08:1 ratio.Its not too expensive either.Lots of people seem to go for 3.5 :1 or or lower,a popular size is 3.75:1,it keeps some drivability on the highway.The lower the diff gears,the higher the engine will rev at 100kmh.You dont want to go too low and have it reving at 4000 rpm at 100kph.

[justbad4you]

brand new mate 3weeks old Bridgestones.i dont take that v8 often so i say thay would be lucky to have done 100km the old tyres i could smoke up/spin the weels easy with 60% tread the bridgies stick like glue on take off

Well a higher RPM stallie will allow you to hold the brakes down longer in the RPM range and allow you to 'launch' higher in your power band, but you will lose some milage in normal driving since you will need more gas to tack-off normally. Also 'stalling' it up so high will generate a LOT of heat and trannies absolutely hate that, so a big trannie cooler would definitely be in order.

But seriously what tyres are you running? If you can't break traction with stock tyres doing a 2000rpm stallie dump with the stock stallie than there's something wrong with your car. So unless you have some really grippy tyres, I wouldn't worry about a bigger stallie.

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[acarmody]

I still think diff gears would be the way to go.

But if you really want to go stallie, than think about a cam too. These two items preferably should match up, you buy a stallie to match your cam generally. And seriously, the 5.0L loves cams.

[Rusty]

I got the VR SS 5L basically stock and a VR 5L ute with cam, mild stall and a shift kit and the difference is amazing!

I realise the ute is lighter but it completely eats my stock SS. Acceleration heaps better with much much firmer shifts! Heaps more fun!

[Vee-ard]

I got the VR SS 5L basically stock and a VR 5L ute with cam, mild stall and a shift kit and the difference is amazing!

I realise the ute is lighter but it completely eats my stock SS. Acceleration heaps better with much much firmer shifts! Heaps more fun!

A ute is heavier.

Exec. Sedan Exec. Wagon Ute Ute S V6 Ute S V8

Gross vehicle mass (kg): 2051 2122 2192
Kerb mass (est., kg): 1362 1398 1354 1356 1443

[Rusty]

A ute is heavier.

Exec. Sedan Exec. Wagon Ute Ute S V6 Ute S V8

Gross vehicle mass (kg): 2051 2122 2192
Kerb mass (est., kg): 1362 1398 1354 1356 1443

True? I thought ute was light for some reason! Shows how much research i had done!

[Vee-ard]

Yeah it got me the first time I saw it as well. I think the general dynamics of the ute make it feel lighter.

[justbad4you]

what did all that cost you at the end off the day?if i may ask

I got the VR SS 5L basically stock and a VR 5L ute with cam, mild stall and a shift kit and the difference is amazing!

I realise the ute is lighter but it completely eats my stock SS. Acceleration heaps better with much much firmer shifts! Heaps more fun!

[Rusty]

Yeah it got me the first time I saw it as well. I think the general dynamics of the ute make it feel lighter.

Am i reading that wrong or is the UTE curb mass 8kg lighter than the sedan?

Ute 1354
Sedan 1362

The GVM of the ute is higher at 2051 but that is at its capacity. I still may be looking at it wrong

[justbad4you]

ya learn somthing new every day(i thought it was lighter)thanks

Yeah it got me the first time I saw it as well. I think the general dynamics of the ute make it feel lighter.

[Rusty]

what did all that cost you at the end off the day?if i may ask

Unsure sorry mate, it all came with the Ute. Am catching up with the previous owner tomorrow and i will try and find out for you

[justbad4you]

Unsure sorry mate, it all came with the Ute. Am catching up with the previous owner tomorrow and i will try and find out for you

thanks a heap have a good week end

[Vee-ard]

You're looking at it fine, but we're talking about the v8 ute here, not the v6 ute

so 1443 kg..

[justbad4you]

sorry if i didnt mention v8 ute,,,thanks vee-ard

You're looking at it fine, but we're talking about the v8 ute here, not the v6 ute

so 1443 kg..

[Rusty]

You're looking at it fine, but we're talking about the v8 ute here, not the v6 ute

so 1443 kg..

Knew i was missing something! Gotta stop replying after midnight!

Cheers for clearing that up mate

[justbad4you]

no worrries custom

Knew i was missing something! Gotta stop replying after midnight!

Cheers for clearing that up mate

cheeeeers

[Rusty]

A ute is heavier.

Exec. Sedan Exec. Wagon Ute Ute S V6 Ute S V8

Gross vehicle mass (kg): 2051 2122 2192
Kerb mass (est., kg): 1362 1398 1354 1356 1443

I am still not completely convinced the vr v8 ute is heavier than the vr SS sedan (not trying to start argument, just interested). The above figures are only for the 6cylinder sedan, not the SS V8.

Cannot seem to find the GVM or kerb weight for the vr SS at the moment but i will keep looking.

[justbad4you]

I am still not completely convinced the vr v8 ute is heavier than the vr SS sedan (not trying to start argument, just interested). The above figures are only for the 6cylinder sedan, not the SS V8.

Cannot seem to find the GVM or kerb weight for the vr SS at the moment but i will keep looking.

not sure what or how it all works.....maloo vs111 abs,lsd live axle,elec windows,hevier loooking fron bar? hsv towbar and all the other extras as ss spac have( a stock as rock ? will be way less with out all the options ive stated,,i wonder on what thay base the weight?