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    Default URGENT HELP NEEDED! with jump starting

    im needing to jump start my VS and was wondering which side is negative and which is positive as neither of them are red

    thanks guys
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    yeah figured that out with the help of a torch

    but, it wouldnt start or turn over or anything it just made this little click noise any ideas whats wrong?
    Originally Posted by crewsy
    Non turbo, normal POS lancer.. although he has a G-reddy sticker on the back so it must go hell fast

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    With the donor car running, you should have positive to positive terminals and negative terminals. Start the car with the flat battery. If it doesn't start rev the donor car and try again with yours.

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    Ive noticed that some battery terminals have a clear plastic coating on them,make sure that the jumper lead contacts are touching the actaul battery pole as well as the terminal.

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    its not from another car, its with dads jumper kit which i reckon is f***n useless but they dont want to use their cars
    when clipped on to the terminal the light in the car come back on but it wont turn over
    Originally Posted by crewsy
    Non turbo, normal POS lancer.. although he has a G-reddy sticker on the back so it must go hell fast

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    Just make sure the metal contacts on the jumper pack battery lead clamps,touch the actual battery poles and not just the battery terminals,as some battery terminals are clear plastic coated.

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    Leave the pack sit on for 10 minutes, see if that helps. Also put the neagative down on the engine block somwhere near the starter. That can often help.
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    How long was it left sitting?

    I had my old VN sitting at my bros for about 3 months and when I tried to start it, it was dead flat.

    Then I tried the jumper pack but it didn't have enough power.

    Then we tried to jump start it with one of my brothers vans but it still didn't have enough power.

    I was about to give up when he said put the jumper pack on as well while it was still connected to the van, I wasnt sure at first but I though what the hell... when it was connected to both it turned over first try, took it for about an hour drive and continued to use the battery for around another 3 years till the car was sold.
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    As VRWagZ1 says, the correct way to jump start is NOT to directly connect the negative terminals of both batteries:

    1. Position the two vehicles so that they are NOT touching and apply the park brakes. Automatic transmission are to be placed in PARK and manual transmissions placed in NEUTRAL. Turn 'OFF' the ignition, lights and all other electrical loads.
    NOTE: Ensure that booster vehicle's battery has a 12 volt rating and has negative earth connection, otherwise serious injury or damage to electrical equipment may result.
    2. On both batteries, check that vent caps are tight.
    3. Attach one end of one jumper cable (red) to the positive terminal of the booster battery and the other end of the same cable to the positive terminal of the discharged battery.
    4. Attach one end of the second jumper cable (black) to the negative terminal of the booster battery and the other end to a solid stationary, metallic point on the engine of the vehicle with the discharged battery. DO NOT CONNECT DIRECTLY TO NEGATIVE POST OF DISCHARGED BATTERY.
    5. After making all connections, ensure that jumper cables are not on or near drive pulleys, cooling fans or other points that will move when the engine is started.
    6. Start the engine in the vehicle with the booster battery and run the engine at a moderate speed for a few minutes.
    7. Start the engine in the vehicle with the discharged battery. Once engine starts, allow both engines to idle for approximately five to ten minutes (this allows both vehicles electrical systems to balance) and then leave running and remove the jumper cables by reversing the installation sequence. When removing each clamp, take care that it does not touch any other metal while the other end remains attached.
    NOTE: If engine in the vehicle with discharged battery does not start within 30 seconds, stop cranking the engine and check for cause of engine not starting.

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    i had the same problem with mine after i got a new alternator the old one was 90A and the new one was 100A when i put the new one in all the wires from the battery to the starter motor/alternator/motor/body were corroded so it wasn't getting enough power to the starter motor so i went to the wreckers and got a hole second hand set of a holden VY and has been good ever since

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    Dude ..... Positive to Positive, Negative to Engine Block/Alternator. I'm having to do it every week because im doing a rebuild and keed running the battery flat cranking music lol

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    thanks guys
    Originally Posted by crewsy
    Non turbo, normal POS lancer.. although he has a G-reddy sticker on the back so it must go hell fast

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    The negative battery post is slightly smaller than the positive..Also connect the negative lead direct to your engine block.. Safer that way.. Your battery is less likely to explode in your face if you get it wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snerty View Post
    The negative battery post is slightly smaller than the positive..Also connect the negative lead direct to your engine block.. Safer that way.. Your battery is less likely to explode in your face if you get it wrong
    And less chance of blowing up the computer (ECU)

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    Has any one had a battery explode while conecting jumper leads?? Its not nice..

    In my aprentice days, Mid "80s" I was doing a test on a auto pilot hydro motor that went under water, There was a bank of 8 batteries on charge(48V) The lead I was using was over 8 meters long (jump starting the pearling luggers) I was at full length of the leads but didnt notice the breaze was blowing the Hydrogen towards me untill the motor sparked.. The foreman was lucky he had glasses...All 8 batteries blew their tops The foreman lost his clothes and was burnt, the workshop was sprayed with hot acid.. It was put down as a freak accident..
    So to this day I treat wet batteries with respect...

    Always stand clear of the battery when you try and start just incase the lead or terminal flashes and blows the battery.


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