VS wheel threads

[spud_22]

Got the VS some VY SS 17inc rims. When I put them on the threads dont seam to stick out very much and the wheel nut's dont seem to get as much bite on the threads as I would like. Any tips on fixing this. Did anyone else have this problem, I do see alot of VY wheels on VS's.

[m1lky]

Not sure whether it's an issue with the setup. How many turns do you get?

You can change the studs for longer ones.

[spud_22]

not sure how many turns but with the stock shit nuts ther is half a turn sticking out the end of them. i looked at trying to get longer threads but they were to hard to find

[m1lky]

Shouldn't the nuts sit the same distance out from the rim regardless since they'll be hard up against the back.

I know the nuts for the vs steel rims had a different chamfer to the later model alloy wheels.

I would guess the hub is a similar thickness for a vy as a vs so vy studs could be a go

[nathanVY]

vy ss's should fit on perfectly. make sure the rim is flat and firm against the hub, and do not use the standard nuts.

trust me the last thing you want is a stripped nut recessed in your shiny new wheels. happened to me, lucky it was only one nut. took it to every tyre joint in town 99% said you'd have to butcher the alloy to get it out, except one bloke managed to get it off.

go buy some nice chrome lug nuts, will cost you about 50 bucks for all 4 wheels.


edit: also make sure you finger tight the nuts on before using a ratchet/wheel brace, etc. It shouldn't be super hard to turn them, if it is you're probably threading your nut.

[spud_22]

na they dont sit the same distance out. the original wheels i had on the rim would have only been 5mm thick around where the nuts go. the VY wheel would be atleast 15mm thick around the bolts. so im losing 10mm of thread. hope that made sense. I thought about VY nuts but i couldnt find some anywhere.

[nathanVY]

na they dont sit the same distance out. the original wheels i had on the rim would have only been 5mm thick around where the nuts go. the VY wheel would be atleast 15mm thick around the bolts. so im losing 10mm of thread. hope that made sense. I thought about VY nuts but i couldnt find some anywhere.

autobarn should stock some wheel nuts that suit, or most wheel/tyre places.

[m1lky]

What wheels did you have before?
Are you using the old wheel nuts?

[spud_22]

Ill take a pic tomorrow and put up what it looks like. i have one wheel nut which looks like it could do the trick. Only prob lem is autopro didnt have any and the guy i showed had never seen any like it before.

[Hangman]

Are you using the old wheel nuts?

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This sounds like it's the problem.

[spud_22]

No im nut using the old wheel nuts. I was just using them as an example because the thread can come out the end of them and it give an idea of how far threads can screw on.

[spud_22]

As soon as i get the pics on tommorow morning things will be alot clearer. im not very good a describing things. lol sorry guys

[spud_22]

OK so here are some pic of the wheel nuts

How much thread is sticking out. not the best pic


with a stock nut on so you can see how much thread is getting used


3 different nut types. i have the middle nuts on atm. i wouldnt mind something like the bottom nut, but the guy at autopro said he had never seen any like it


Hope this clears things up abit

[nathanVY]

Hmmm, do you have the car jacked up and the wheel completely flat against the hub when you try and put the nut on?

The middle nut in the last photo is the correct type of nut to use, the stocky nuts won't even hold the wheels on properly and will damage the alloys.
Grab a set of those ones (middle nut, chrome lug nut) and if in doubt take it to a tyre shop. Might also be worth getting a wheel alignment and the tyres balanced make sure they wear evenly.

[spud_22]

yea its jacked up and its sitting flat. i do have 10 longer threads ( Im pretty sure they are longer) i might take them in to a tyre shop and see i they can get 10 more and put them on for me. just had a wheel alignment and tyres balanced 2months ago. Going in for another wheel alignment in a few week when i get my new shocks and springs put in the front.
cheers guys for all the help

[nathanVY]

Lol what do you mean 10 longer threads? If the threads on one stud are different length to another.... then someone must have replaced them at some point with the wrong length.

[spud_22]

na the longer thread that i have are in a bag that i got. they are GM parts that havent been used

[m1lky]

Getting another 10 and swapping them sounds like a go. Just make sure that they are long enough.

[jzt4kikz]

hey mate looking at your picture of the wheel nuts the top and middle wheel nuts will work and the bottom is junk throw em away for this wheel - looking at the picture you have with the top wheel nut (standard holden wheel nut) when it is bolted up there should be alot more thread coming through that wheel nut then what is showing...looks to me almost flush ?? Is this the same problem for front and rear ?? Just from reading what yourself and others have written i would check these things 1st (once again). Make sure the wheel sits flush on the hub and there is no wheel locators around the hub or on the inside of the wheel that u havent noticed...make sure the vy ss wheels you are fitting are a genuine gm part number and the tyres are no bigger then a 235/45/17 (if theyre bigger the tyre may be hitting the strut and not allowing the wheel all the way on.. When you bolt the wheel up spin it with your hand and see if it spins without hitting/rubbing on anything maybe showing signs of why it hasnt gone on all the way...and if that is all good your problem is your wheel studs have been replaced by some nufty along the line and they are the incorrect ones. Let us know how you go mate - ive had vy ss rims 17's and 18's on my vs commodores and there was no problem there at all

[wraith]

Don't forget the hub supports the wheel the wheel studs just keep the wheel on.....

[m1lky]

Any transmit drive on the rear wheels

[spirto]

looks like the wheels your fitting have the same issue as using VE rims, you can have the rim modified to remove some of the thickness where the rim meets the hub. But before you do this ensure it will clear the bottom of the struts, fitting longer struts isn't a good option as the longer the stud the weaker it is. (just my opinion) and I think cops can pin you for it. well in SA ... they can... Another option is you can get wheel studs like your last one that have a long threaded shaft, that sits inside the rim, but you can have the holes in the mag drilled out bigger to allow the wheel nut to fit through.. hope this makes sence.

[wraith]

One thing you can do is line up the nut beside the stud and see how far it goes. If that makes sense?

[spud_22]

hey mate looking at your picture of the wheel nuts the top and middle wheel nuts will work and the bottom is junk throw em away for this wheel - looking at the picture you have with the top wheel nut (standard holden wheel nut) when it is bolted up there should be alot more thread coming through that wheel nut then what is showing...looks to me almost flush ?? Is this the same problem for front and rear ?? Just from reading what yourself and others have written i would check these things 1st (once again). Make sure the wheel sits flush on the hub and there is no wheel locators around the hub or on the inside of the wheel that u havent noticed...make sure the vy ss wheels you are fitting are a genuine gm part number and the tyres are no bigger then a 235/45/17 (if theyre bigger the tyre may be hitting the strut and not allowing the wheel all the way on.. When you bolt the wheel up spin it with your hand and see if it spins without hitting/rubbing on anything maybe showing signs of why it hasnt gone on all the way...and if that is all good your problem is your wheel studs have been replaced by some nufty along the line and they are the incorrect ones. Let us know how you go mate - ive had vy ss rims 17's and 18's on my vs commodores and there was no problem there at all

Yea it is the same at the front and rear. they are genuine gm wheels and they do have 235/45/17 tyres on them. ill take them into tyrepower when i get some time and see if they can sort it all out for me

[jzt4kikz]

how did u go mate, looking at your pictures again i actually think u got nothing to worrie about..that looks like a good amount of thread in the nut bro it maxed out all the way though so thats at least 6 threads give or take?