Hey guy i have a stock vs ute on 18s and looking at lowering it on kings.
On my previous cars (which were FWD) when i lowered them say SL's all round the front seem to be lower due to more weight at the front. Then i have to re-lower the back cost me more cash
Would it be the same case with the ute as the back is light?
Would SL front and SSL back make it more even...well i dont mind if the back is lower
Anyone with pics??
Many people who have lowered there Commodores on SL all around, still say it is too high at the rear and go with Ultra Low rear and SL front.
I have SL rear and Low fronts and rear sits 10-15 mm lower then the front, it is not that noticeable, but enough to make me wish I eant SL front and Ultra Rears to level it out which I will soon do.
Just keep in mind that they engineer these springs to raise the back of the vehicle slightly for good reason. Even the factory setup will see the back riding a little higher - it's just that towing and load bearing over the years causes the back end to sag slightly.
Having the back a little higher gives you a better pinion angle, better lateral diff location, and better aerodynamics. If you have the back level, then as soon as you load up the ute or throw on a trailer, the front end sits higher which puts all your geometry out, and makes the car act like a massive wind scoop, leading to wandering steering at speed and reduced braking ability.
That said, if you want the back to sit dead level, you will need ultralows.
*cough* rake rocks
My old VP
i had ssl in my ute all round but i have put lows in it becase the ride was absolutley shocking made everything rattle in the cabin looked good but wasnt worht it for me
this is me ute on lows might be a little high for you but the ride is 100% better
If you get the same height springs all around, it should sit level or even slightly raked toward the front. Kings make different spec springs to suit utes, sedans ,wagons etc.
Also is your ute IRS or Live Axle? Live axle commodores tend to sit higher in the rear than their IRS counterparts.
Utes are always live axle, and Kings use the same spring part numbers for wagons and utes. They're "load bearing" springs, and have a slightly heavier spring rate than your sedan live axle spring.
You will often find that the reason for the front sitting much lower isn't to do with different spring heights. Yes, your car should naturally rake toward the front, but 99% of the time people have busted front ball joints and saggy front strut plates, and this can make the front end sit 15mm lower when combined.
There's no point sacking the back of your car to compensate for broken front suspension, because all you'll do is break even more stuff down the track ^_^
If you want a even ride the definitly go sl front and ultra low rear and it will sit level. The ride wont be very nice in the rear then again it is a ute haha
I got sl all round and from the moment i droped it after putting rears in i wasnt happy. You can check out my thread and see what ive done and thats pretty much as low as you can go in the rear without bags as far as i no. This is how mine sits at the moment on sl front with monroe lowerd struts, sl rear with no insulators and one coil cut off and lowerd shocks.
VR/VS have a unique rear guard wich in my opinion makes them look alot tougher when there slammed over the rim
thats for the info guys
MADDNE33 your ute is no clean, sits tough.