Tough/urgent Decision - Very low Km VS Calais or Calais SC L67

[mitchyp]

Hey guys,

Stuck between buying two cars and really can't decide, though only have 2 days.

one is a White 95 VS Calais, V6, 55000 kms with log books - $6500

the other is a 97 VS Calais, V6 Supercharged, 170000kms, 10psi pulley, exhaust. $6500

I'm leaning towards the 95 as it is low kms, unmolestered, could fit Supercharger later.

What would you chose ? why ?

thanks

[VSSS_5L]

I dont like white, but 55000k's vs 170000k's is pretty convincing. Are they both pretty similar condition body/interior?

I'd say if you want a supercharged car at a later date, then just buy the supercharged calais now. I think you'll have less headache rebuilding that motor than adding a supercharger to the other one.

There's heaps of variables in buying though...so many different bits and pieces that can be worn and old and tired... Do u think the 55,000k one is an honest 55,000k's?

[mitchyp]

I think the low km Calais is genuine, the dealer says the log books are complete, but going from 5speed's i know i will want more power out it.

The Supercharged is owned by a female, is it definite that i would have to rebuild the L67, what are they like in terms of durability ?

[SP00KSTER]

i would be going the 95 calais if you need to rebuild the L67... but then again if you want a supercharged motor go for the other calais
Also what colour is the 97 calais?

[wana s' charge stock vt]

ya mad putting a link up lol. someone will nab it.

55,000k's is good but if ya want the supercharger later ya cant just wack a supercharger on it, you'll need a hell of alot more, or a whole supercharged motor (be $2000ish just for motor). then plus ya cats, exhausts, fuel pump and more... so i'd just get the supercharged one now and be done with it, least its all legal, built for a supercharger and built properly by holden....(providing its all in good cond too)
177,000's still pretty good...


edit- ohhh, if ya have to rebuild the l67 i'd def get the other one...

[mitchyp]

Took it down

Nothing is apparently wrong with the L67, but are they reliable engines if kept in good condition ? I'd probably even return the pulley to stock.

[wana s' charge stock vt]

Took it down

Nothing is apparently wrong with the L67, but are they reliable engines if kept in good condition ? I'd probably even return the pulley to stock.

oh ok, yeah they're reliable.... they're fun too.

but all depends what ya do to it, if ya put a 18psi pulley on it with no cooler or tune it might last a couple of days
mines been as reliable as my ecotec.. i've been playing with it doing little mods and giving it a bit of a hiding for 18months driving it every day with no worry's

10psi is still safe thou so dont take it off.

[walesy]

if i were you, id go the lower km one and turbo it, it would be way quicker than an L67

[mitchyp]

Not really planning to go a huge conversion route, but would like to manualize the l67 if i got it.

[wana s' charge stock vt]

if i were you, id go the lower km one and turbo it, it would be way quicker than an L67

that would be rather nice. 'if ya had the coin'.. 55,000k vs calais turbo mmmmmmmmmmmm

[monkeys437]

Id go the l67. 170k is still pretty low k's and far more responsive to mods than the NA V6

[wana s' charge stock vt]

Not really planning to go a huge conversion route, but would like to manualize the l67 if i got it.

that'll cost ya (to get one that lasts anyway).. the l67's have to much torque for the normal manual's and they dont last stuff all.

go on l67torque.com if ya want to read a bit about the l67's

[mitchyp]

Buy if you beat me to it, but showing for opinion, the VS V6 - looks clean

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[wraith]

Kay's don't mean much if the services are kept up to date. I would go the L67 VS. Later model for a start and as said more responsive to mods. Just because it has a supercharger doesn't make it less reliable. Just don't forget to run premium only in it.

[mitchyp]

Hmmm the SC Calais owner just put the price from $6500 to $5800 - Seems to cheap and eager to sell

1997 HOLDEN CALAIS VS II Private Cars For Sale in NSW - carsales.com.au

[vsl67]

K's dont mean much heres a picture of A 1 owner 173,000 k vr calias engine and if you go the l67 route you get a stronger factory bottom end

[SP00KSTER]

after having a look id definatly be going the SC calais. for that price you should snap it up this arvo... would be so much fun

[mitchyp]

Yeah but female owner, who was putting the parts on and servicing it ?
I was more keen on it when it was $6500, now it seems too cheap.

[bgcarter1]

i would go the supercharger, cheaper in the chase for power :-)

[sircruisealotVS]

Six and a half grand for a VS V6...stuff that! There's plenty of really nice VS/VR's going these days at half that price. They just aren't worth that much any more....i'd have another look around at what's available.
Sometimes it even pays to search outside your immmediate area for cars too. Last time i bought a car i was looking for a LS1 VZ calais in the brisbane area and they were all at least $20k+. Looked up north and found an awesome calais with log books and low k's etc, in bundaburg for $16k, saved five grand just by taking a bit of a road trip to go look at it/buy it.

[SWE11L]

K's dont mean much heres a picture of A 1 owner 173,000 k vr calias engine and if you go the l67 route you get a stronger factory bottom end

Thats disgusting. How can you let your car get to that state??

[vsl67]

The prevous owner did his part for the environment by using the original oil for the life of the motor to help save the planets dwindling oil supplies

[FstStig]

I would be going the L67 as well, much stronger internals in them. I would rather a 97 VS with a 170,000 on it rather then a 95 VS With only 55,000. If the car hasn't been driven much, what does that say about the owner and how often they would have the service done? Personally to me 170,000k's is a really good reasonable amount, providing it has had the services kept up to it. Although as a pre-caution I always do a full service on all my cars when I buy them.