Minispool tips (no haters haha)

[General Xander]

Ok, so im pretty much decided that im gunna get a minispool.
Im just looking for some tips on driving one
how much more difficult are they to drive,
how much is the turn in affected
are they more difficult to park with?
what else changes
just general tips for driving with one

thanks

[walesy]

Ok, so im pretty much decided that im gunna get a minispool.
Im just looking for some tips on driving one
how much more difficult are they to drive, theyre fine
how much is the turn in affected sharp turns on rough road is dreadful for your tread and axels but other than that it skips the inside wheel
are they more difficult to park with? YES
what else changes unless you have nolathane bushes you can kiss your bushes goodbye within 3 months
just general tips for driving with one

thanks

if the car is IRS theyre a bit weaker than live axel but spools are nowhere near as bad as people think, ive had them in a few of my daily drivers, but in a stock 3.8ltr is it really nescissary?

[streetholden]

Im going to have a random guess what your like and im going to say dont do it, no only is it illegal, but useless on the road.
If you do it, dont complain when: You get defected, crash, hurt yourself and expect to get ultimately flamed if you cause harm to other people because of your actions with it.

Also consider your insurance void.

[James39]

Standard diff and LSD seem to work well, so why would you want that shit...

[Drawnnite]

Standard diff and LSD seem to work well, so why would you want that shit...

or a KAAZ 2way LSD if you have the dough =P

but can you please explain why you do want a minispool for your car. just surious as to why you would actually want one in a daily driven car.

[JustDylan]

He's already decided he's getting one. When I get mine I had the idea of putting a bit of electrical tape on the steering wheel at the point just before it starts to skip, and then just mirror it when turning the other way.

[RX25SE]

Im going to have a random guess what your like and im going to say dont do it, no only is it illegal, but useless on the road.
If you do it, dont complain when: You get defected, crash, hurt yourself and expect to get ultimately flamed if you cause harm to other people because of your actions with it.

Also consider your insurance void.

THIS.

He's already decided he's getting one. When I get mine I had the idea of putting a bit of electrical tape on the steering wheel at the point just before it starts to skip, and then just mirror it when turning the other way.

Please tell me this is a joke.

[JustDylan]

LOL @ LSD fags getting diff rebuilds every 3 months for more than the cost of a minispool.

[seq4x4]

LOL @ LSD fags getting diff rebuilds every 3 months for more than the cost of a minispool.

What are you smoking?

[VT-565]

You want tips for driving a spool?

Drive it hard.
Thats what they're designed for.
Awesome donuts and very predictable once you get the hang of it.
Put aside lots of money for tyres and fines

[JustDylan]

What are you smoking?

BOTH of my rear tyres because I have a minispool not an LSD that shlts itself after a few weeks.....

[seq4x4]

You do realize i use to rebuild diffs for a living..?

[JustDylan]

Cool story bro, how many minispools needed rebuilding?

[seq4x4]

Cool story bro, how many minispools needed rebuilding?

Alot. Because they #### out axles. Not to mention the amount of tyres you go through and bushes.
Also take into account that their illegal and voids your warranty.

You could either spend $80 on a spool or $200 on a LSD..
One is illegal, one is legal.
One is more dangerous then the other.
One assists control of your rear end, one does not.
One will cause so much problems and cost abit of money in repair. One needs to be rebuilt when it wears out.

Not to mention for the commodore theres a few different types of LSDs. Ones being better then others.
Hell theres even a air locker.

My personal opinion is that their down right stupid on the road. Good for track and what not.

[GEN3RATD]

Did you really think putting no haters in the title would stop the haters? Id troll you hardcore but I'm on my iPhone and it takes too long to type, consider this a warning

[GTP 85]

I'll answer your questions

If you keep the drive train loaded up around corners (i.e. brake in a straight line, and drive through/ around the bend) it will turn pretty well.

From experience anything with a thick sidewall will chirp and shudder more around tight corners, i hate that. In saying that though, if you find a tyre that is an ideal compound chirping and shuddering will be minimised. My spooled car runs 19's so in the car you wont even notice. I drove around 3 blocks before my mechanic mate noticed.

make sure ALL suspension bushes and shocks are in VGC.

If your car is slammed excessively it will shudder more due to the suspension geometry. My VS has SL front SSL rear

You WILL increase rear tyre wear and front shoulder wear slightly.. but if that bothers you, dont spool it!

I used to be a spool hater, then i tried one in one of my cars.. one of my best mods. If i didnt have to tow 1500kg loads with my daily, i'd spool that too. But for now the LSD does the job in that.

This feedback is purely my opinion only

[cunno]

yeah most that say spools r bad have probably never driven with one. If your aiming to have "fun" on a budget a spool is ya best bet.

[GEN3RATD]

yeah most that say spools r bad have probably never driven with one. If your aiming to have "fun" on a budget a spool is ya best bet.

ive never driven one because the concept of paying off a $80,000 mercedes doesnt sit right with me.

[FusionX]

Because everyone with a spool drives like an idiot and is going to crash into someone.

[General Xander]

lucky i had my flame shield up haha,

a KAAZ 2way LSD if you have the dough =P

id love too but in reallity theres no way im gunna pull 2 grand outa my ass when im goin to uni and struggling to get by,
im really just after a bit of cheap fun but as i drive 1000ks a week to uni and whatnot im a bit hesitant as i dont have the money for bushes all the time.

Hell theres even a air locker.

id love an air locker, how much and where from?

im probably gonna get an lsd in the end as i know some guys in the trade, and ill just get it really really tight.
how long will an insainly tight lsd last with only the odd power skid round corners?
thanks for the feedback guys

[GTP 85]

holden LSD's arent made to skid, they're made to grip two wheels. The more you skid them the shorter the life cause they have internal parts that wear out. Very much like your brakes, the harder you work them the quicker they wear out.

I wore out two LSD from doing the odd hoop, power skid and off street drag racing in 3 years. Costing around $500 a pop per rebuild with new internals... NOT shimmed. Therefore i went the option that suited my needs for that car. spool

An LSD will do the job for you fine, but as i said be aware that if you flog it too much it'll die. Hoops and mid corner drifties are the killer

[blueVP]

I Have a detroit lokka style diff in my VP (detroit lokkas are mainly used for 4 wheel driving).
When your driving normal it acts as an open diff, allowing one wheel to spin quicker then the other around corners etc.
However as soon as you put your foot into it and start spinning the wheels it locks together and acts as a minispool would.
Mine cost 350 second hand (had done about 1000ks) im not sure what the brand name is but I'm sure you could find it on google.
So you have the best of both worlds and its totally legal.

[padrickz88]

Agree with RUF231..

- Bigger the wheels, the less the shutter....Also soft tyres are ALOT better and shutter less than hard shit tyres.. I had very soft 15's and you could hardly tell I had a spool, recently threw on 17's and same thing applies, cant tell most of the time
- Dont listen to people who say you will snap axles every month etc... I've driven my car daily with a spool for nearly 3 years (3 years in november) still on the same set of axles..
- The trick to driving a spool is to always have some load on the drivetrain while taking corners.
- I have had to turn into booze buses (about a 45-60 degree turn) with no skipping, it all comes down to the driver learning how to hide it.
- People always say about insurance being void if you have a spool, sorry but if you are in a crash bad enough for the insurance company to investigate it, then I can say it would be a crash unrelated to the spool, and your stupidity.
- Just remember it comes down to the driver, it doesn't matter if the car has a single, lsd or spool.. if you drive like a ######## then you cant go blaming it on what diff you have.
There is alot of other point but I cant be bothered typing them all.


But if you want to find more details on how to drive it properly etc, look up some spool threads, stealthy and some other people has gave some good advice over time. Little thing I realised about car forums, is there will always be haters and usually the haters are the one's that have never driven a spool daily so dont bother listening to them

[combatantsomeone]

lucky i had my flame shield up haha,

id love too but in reallity theres no way im gunna pull 2 grand outa my ass when im goin to uni and struggling to get by,
im really just after a bit of cheap fun but as i drive 1000ks a week to uni and whatnot im a bit hesitant as i dont have the money for bushes all the time.

Surely if your struggling with uni it would seem foolish to perform dangerous, wear inducing, cost increasing mods to a car that would probably struggle to turn both wheels at the same time.. Unless of course your tyres are bald as in which case I doubt its a good idea to be driving that far per week/at all.. Not to mention the fact that, as someone already mentioned if you crash your insurance is void..

my $0.02

[Andrew426]

Because everyone with a spool drives like an idiot and is going to crash into someone.

I 100% agree with this statement, even if it is sarcasm.

To take the car you drive every day, that is perfectly reliable and roadworthy, and make it unroadworthy by fitting a spool is just retarded - especially if you do it for some perceived performance increase.