Engines

[CJ - 1995]

Hey all,

just wondering how different the VE commodore engine is to my VS (6 cylinder).
I'm thinking of putting a VE or VZ engine in my VS but not sure on the VE.
The VZ is basically the same as my VS correct?

Cheers
Chris

[Morton]

They share nothing in common.

The Ecotec is a OHV (pushrod) 3.8 litre engine.
The Alloytech is a DOHC 3.6 litre nightmare.

[Reaper]

Both were manufactured by HEC. That is all they have in common.

Reaper

[CJ - 1995]

ohk so VZ would be more likely then
VZ is almost the same right?

[hakhawk]

vz is also an alloytec, vy was the last to get an emotec

[Jonno]

lol, emotec.

if you want to change the engine the vy one will prob be the way to go though.
theirs not much point tho.. unless your engine is fecked

[CJ - 1995]

yeah my engine is starting to struggle and i was going to change the gearbox soon so i just thought maybe a whole new setup

[VK SL 3800]

Ecotec is a hardier more simple engine less prone to problems then the later Alloytec, you better off keeping it an ecotec.

[CJ - 1995]

ok so a VY seems to be the way to go
does it line up with the same engine mounts and etc?

[James39]

One would assume you would use the engine mounts and exhaust manifold and inlet manifold and plenum chamber and TB from the VS.
Plus I think there is a pulley that needs to be changed as the air con compressor is not the same type as used in the VS.

[CJ - 1995]

ok cheers and it would also be with a new manual gearbox whereas my current one is auto i would have to get the pedal box etc for the vs right

[James39]

ok cheers and it would also be with a new manual gearbox whereas my current one is auto i would have to get the pedal box etc for the vs right

Yes and a ECU to suit the manual box.

[pjdm1980]

Don't want to be a downer on your idea but if you don't know the differences between the VE and VS mechanics then maybe your better off selling your car and just buying a factory manual VS as there is a fare bit involved in engine / gearbox, swaps / conversions.
Good luck.

[James39]

Don't want to be a downer on your idea but if you don't know the differences between the VE and VS mechanics then maybe your better off selling your car and just buying a factory manual VS as there is a fare bit involved in engine / gearbox, swaps / conversions.
Good luck.

From what I understand he is now on the lines of a VY engine.

[CJ - 1995]

haha yeah i really only know the basics of engines and etc but i wont be doin this by myself i know people that work with cars and have personally had commodores i just want to make the decision on what to do before i go talk to them

[Morton]

Beware, VY engines have the sumps that are a PAIN to work on. Take it from a bloke who's changed a few in-car >_>

[CJ - 1995]

yeah but it still is probably the best way to go with a VY