Hey all,
Iv got my VS calais l67 and i was wondering if i should go down the 4.2l stroked path and intercooler or do a LS1 conversion both around the 6-7g mark.
Need some ideas if anyone has any cheers.
I would go the LS1...
Forced induction means more piping, more joins, more components that wear out = higher maintenance costs.
Keep it simple, get a better note, less things to go wrong, similar power and better fuel economy.
Thats just my view though...
Every since driving a ls1 i would never go anything different, like i havent driven a stroked l67, but i love the power i have under my right foot with the ls1, an mines just stock but an exhaust, an its got a good note when under acceleration![]()
^^^ I rest my case!
I have driven a few V8's... but i have never owned one...In my dreams i would love to drop and LS1 into my VR...
why go a ls1?, go all the way and get a LS3 6.2 or the 7L![]()
i struggle to comprehend how this is even a half sensible question
l67 stroker ftw
nah fvck that
I would wait for someone that has owned and drove both a stoked L67 and an LS1. It comes down to personal preference. If you can do the work yourself you can drop the stroker costs down considerably. But on the other hand you have a V8 which for some reason everyone wants. If you like your V6 stay with a V6, if you want a V8, get a V8. Make your own choice as 99% of the time they will all be biased answers.
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Stroked Supercharged 6 = Jizz.........
(Biased answer)
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Lol love all the 'Go the V8 route'... i just finished reading a thread about how s##t the GM V8's are and how people are on to their 3rd and 4th engine...
Go the stroked and forced route, at least then you'll have something other than a standard v8 which everyone else has.
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^^LOL!
I was rather unbiased actually... gave my merits for both...
If you want to standout then the obvious answer is the stroked 6... Otherwise V8. and as to the unreliable solution? Have it rebuilt with better internals! Hell, destroke it and build a rev monster? Endless options. Fact is, fewer parts means fewer things can go wrong which = Less $$$$ at the end of the day. which in my eyes means money can be spent where its enjoyed even more: The PUB!!!!![]()
ls1 conversion for 6k??![]()
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cant believe people are actually having this argument?
and as for gm v8's being shit, really?
i guess that would explain exactly why ls1's are being put into fords, nissans, toyotas etc
must be because there such unreliable pieces of crap
and as for this felix bloke above me saying fewer parts less things to go wrong
an ls1 in any form is going too be alot more reliable than a stroked and charged ecotec, while also making more power, and sounding better while doing it
Going supercharged is only adding one extra component that will wear out with time and that is the supercharger itself.
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ultimately both would be awesome
I have been in a friends stock troke L67 that has been taken as far as you can take it without going stroker/bigger blower and damn does it get up and go
I would say that if you ever do any towing/long highway drives go for the LS1 as it would be better suited for this but if you are after something that has some stick and will scare a few people go the stroked L67 as people will go WTF when you give it a boot full there is nothing like the scream of the eaton blowers
Just my 2C worth anyway
Any forced induction increases the amount of wear in an engine! keyword "forced". SC's themselves draw around 20%+ of engine power JUST to drive them... Automatic increase in wear right there, and thats BEFORE the forced air hits the engine... Simple physics. Everything wears out over time, just any forced induction will hasten the process though generally speaking SC are harsher on an engine than a turbo... Though turbos are more complicated, but ultimately lead to more power cheaper.
SC have bearings, rotors, all sorts of lines, intercoolers, high pressure lines etc...
This thread will go nowhere. It will just turn into yet another V6 vs V8 argument, and many of the people posting will never have owned either or even driven a car.
Both engines will provide more power than you need.
Bottom line.. which one do YOU want? Who gives a shit what other people want...
VR and VS error codes:
VS V8 DTC/Error codes comprehensive list.
VS V6 DTC/Error codes comprehensive list.
I just wanted a few opinions on either options im still leaning towards the stroked L67 just because there aint many around and more for the WTF factor, iv looked at a few vids on youtube of people stroking the 3800 m90 pontiac gpx (or something like that) and they just sound AWESOME for a V6 and can easly run low 12's on the quarter mile even high 11's and thats mad in anyone's books.
As someone on here said V8's are done to death in every type of vehicle and the only reason i sujested it was for ease of instalation (buy a adaptor kit, easy as) and fuel economy to power factor but going down the stroked road just seems more fun iv all ready bought another L67 motor complete so im just waiting for more funds to buy the stroker kit then ill send off the block and heads to get worked over.
Thanks for everyones opinions and advice.
Jump onto L67torque and have a bit of a surf through that forum. Have a good read of the power output section and the 1/4 mile section, you will be surprised at how easy and how cheap it is to get into the 12's at the 1/4 mile. Many members are doing it with stock internals and just bolt on upgrades.
At the end of the day, its your money, your car and your decision, have fun!
A great example of a stroker 6 with a Whipple on it.
Might cost a bit more than 6K though!!!!
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A great example of a stroker 6 with a Whipple on it.
Might cost a bit more than 6K though!!!!
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F**k yeh that thing is off its head.. love the sound of it
holden v8's are like assholes,every one has one an a ford 6 cycl can kick there ass.
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