Spool or not to Spool

[leonthalion]

currently doing up a vs v6, and was wondering if i could get some feedback on whether i should mini spool, or just go all out and get the LSD?

[Burnout_bro]

depends, how you drive, how experienced are you, have you driven a spooled car, is it your daily,

[leonthalion]

depends, how you drive, how experienced are you, have you driven a spooled car, is it your daily,

well i am a pretty reserved driver, however when i get the urge id rather go hard or not at all. i have driven a few powerfull cars in my time, LS1, LS2, sklines, blown vr / vs, some were open, some locked and some have LSD, but never have i driven a spooled car.

[POVRTY]

a spool is 4 people who cant afford a tight lsd.(my opinion). the have been countless threads on the pros and cons of both lsd and spools. atleast lsds a legal and suit the daily driver. spools are for rally cars or drag cars

[winton]

i got a spool in my daily. no probs at all best descision i ever made and im sure stealthy and a few others would agree.. is this car manual u thinking about putting a spool into?

[AttaBoy]

Try doing a tight U turn with the spool!!

[VRSS]

Try doing a tight U turn with the spool!!

and it will be just like doing a tight u turn in a normal car.. unless you boot it

[crazywog]

id go straight LSD coz minispool ull get defected all the time if cops see u use it.

[winton]

Try doing a tight U turn with the spool!!

do em EVERYDAY not a problem if u can hold back from dropping the clutch

[leonthalion]

i got a spool in my daily. no probs at all best descision i ever made and im sure stealthy and a few others would agree.. is this car manual u thinking about putting a spool into?

Unfortunatly not, its an auto, however i will be converting it to manual asap.

[winton]

i had a spool in my auto vr for about 2 months maby. its ok realy fun on wet nights....but if ur goin to put a spool or lsd in on a v6 make sure its a manual so much better..so i sugest u put a spool in and change it to manual ASAP

[holden007]

I wouldn't want to plant my foot if its raining with a mini spool

[winton]

i did it once span out hit a curb couple $100 later all fixed i learnt my lesson tho in a autoits not to bad it only really kicks out when u give it some in the wet in a manual it s a differant story lol

[Big Trev]

Spools are for race track use only IMHO!

[HaMmErD]

Go LSD... more control, Safer, And unlike Minispool.. they are legal

[lgnd3800]

what makes them so dif from a spool auto and a spooled manual ?

[winton]

u can control the gears. say u plant it get sideways after 5500rpm or what ever it wil change to second get traction and can send u flying into a curb or somthing.

[V85000i]

u can control the gears. say u plant it get sideways after 5500rpm or what ever it wil change to second get traction and can send u flying into a curb or somthing.

maybe in a V6, but do it in a V8, and when it hit's second you'll be in twice as much trouble, i got an open wheeler but if i boot it around a corner and it hit's second it looses traction no problems

[Ripcell]

get a tight lsd dood, my mate has a spool in his stato, he got like 4000ks out of his tyres with very minimal burnouts, nasty to drive, shudders like hell, not good for a daily driver man

[blaze]

aigght sum1 wanna explain to me wat a
mini spool is?
a locked diff?
and a
a detroit locker?

[STEALTHY™]

a spool is 4 people who cant afford a tight lsd.(my opinion). the have been countless threads on the pros and cons of both lsd and spools. atleast lsds a legal and suit the daily driver. spools are for rally cars or drag cars

Lets see, $120 for a spool, or over $2000 for an LSD that will just wear out in 2 months.....

Try doing a tight U turn with the spool!!

My turning circle hasn't increased at all. The only difference i have now is i can do a uturn on a 20c peice if i choose to.

id go straight LSD coz minispool ull get defected all the time if cops see u use it.

Not once have i had my diff cover taken off during an RBT. My car even went over the pits twice with a spool.

Unfortunatly not, its an auto, however i will be converting it to manual asap.

Auto or manual it doesn't matter. I have the knowledge of both (converted to manual after i got the spool) and suprisingly, it was good with the auto. I could hold the car at a certain revs and it would sit the same angle sideways for as long as i wanted.

I wouldn't want to plant my foot if its raining with a mini spool

That because you don't know how to control a car. Anyone who has ever driven with a spool, knows how the car will react. Specifically, a road i take every day for work. Its a wide sweeping bend, and speed limited to 80. Accelerating through there, while raining, and the car doesn't get sideways. I'm sure if you dropped to 2nd it would, but no-one would do that on a straight road, let alone a bend.

Spools are for race track use only IMHO!

IMO, they are for a person who wants them.

Go LSD... more control, Safer, And unlike Minispool.. they are legal

This has to be the stupidest post in the thread. An LSD has parts that wear out, meaning one day (maybe not tomorrow, but soon enough) your brand new LSD WILL open wheel. A spool NEVER wears out. Speeding is illegal, but i bet everyone here has done it at one stage.

what makes them so dif from a spool auto and a spooled manual ?

More control with a manual, because you choose when the car changes gears, not the car.

maybe in a V6, but do it in a V8, and when it hit's second you'll be in twice as much trouble, i got an open wheeler but if i boot it around a corner and it hit's second it looses traction no problems

Great point. You just proved how unreliable open wheelers can be (which is what your LSD will end up as)

get a tight lsd dood, my mate has a spool in his stato, he got like 4000ks out of his tyres with very minimal burnouts, nasty to drive, shudders like hell, not good for a daily driver man

Sorry to ay, but your mate with the stato has some serious Rubber problems. I would think all of his bushes are worn out if its shuddering like hell.
I can drive my car as smooth as anything, not a single shudder. The closest thing to a shudder would be the skipping when turning, but any skilled drive can control that aswell.

On the tyres thing, a Spool NEVER wears out tyres. End of story. With a spool people do more burnouts, which means less tyres. thats a choice tho. Choose not to, and your back tyres will last as long as your fronts.




I should probably explain where this post has come from. I've daily drive a spooled car for 4 years. My car never steps out sideways, unless i make it
I've also had cars with open wheelers, stock LSDs, and welded diffs. A spool is the most predicatble of the lot (welded diffs can snap easily, due to the heating of parts). A spool is 100% predictable. You will know what it will do every time you stomp on the gas pedal. LSD lovers will claim black and blue that they are more predictable, but they are not. They have parts that wear out, that is fact.

You could look into getting a Lokka. It is a similar setup to an LSD, but used a ratchet system to lock under load. For me thats still not a big enough guarantee of how the diff will react, so i chose against it. But personally i rely on my car to do what i want, when i tell it to. with anything less than 100%, i wouldn't drive on Adelaide roads.

aigght sum1 wanna explain to me wat a
mini spool is?
a locked diff?
and a
a detroit locker?

A mini spool is a cylinder looking device that locks the axles together. You can get stronger ones called Full spools that bolt to your crown wheel, and have less parts than the diff would with a mimi.

A locked diff is different, but people refer to minispools and welded diffs as lockers (i do to, even tho its not correct, but thats what most people know them as)

A proper locker is that of the Detroit Locker. I don't know the inner workings of them, but i assume they are a similar setup to the Lokka (which is mostly used in 4WD vehicles)

[vs_commodore_s]

wot is the price difference in the to. cheers

[STEALTHY™]

wot is the price difference in the to. cheers

Price difference between what?

A minispool supplied is about $120. Maybe cheaper on ebay.
Add 200 or so if you want a diff shop to fit it.


A rebuilt LSD would be about 1000, and would be fine for a few weeks/months depending how hard you drive.


My mate bought a KAAZ for $2000 fitted.


Detroit lockers are.....alot dearer.

[vs_commodore_s]

ok cheers mate i might look into getting spoold lol

[lgnd3800]

im gonna get a spool when i convert my car to manual