Manualising the auto

[savage1987]

Keeping my auto g/box, it's got a stage 3 shift kit in it already with thicker bands etc... what's involved with manualising it fully? Simple enough to do or needlessly expensive??
The car is my daily.

Any info appreciated.
Sam

[ephect]

hey sam,

technically a stage 3 shift kit is a manualised auto.. not too sure on whats been done to yours, sounds like its been strengthened enough, but whether they classed the extra strengthened bits to stage 3, its still a stage 2 with strengthened internals.

wouldnt think its too much to go manual since most of the work has been done already.. i'd do the ol ring around n find out what it'll cost.

sorry im not too much help

[sircruisealotVS]

yeah, strange, a stage 3 shift kit should be completely manual, thats what stage 3 is.
anyway, as far as im aware all thats needed is the shift kit installed with manual valve body and you've got a manual auto. any stage over 2 is basically manual anyway, or you can drive it manually i should say (hold any gear to any rpm manually).

[polar5L]

I am in the process of shift kitting my vs, was contemplating stage 3, but have a question. I can manually run through the gears on my vs now, whats difference between runnin through them on a standard box, and a fuuly manualised box?

[savage1987]

Fully manualised won't kick down at all. it stays in the gear you put it in, it's locked there. We have a manualised trimatic in a HK Monaro for sale at work


My turn for another question... Fully manualised boxes..will they still work with the standard auto shifter or do I need a B&M piece??

[RabidDog_12345]

Fully manualised won't kick down at all. it stays in the gear you put it in, it's locked there. We have a manualised trimatic in a HK Monaro for sale at work


My turn for another question... Fully manualised boxes..will they still work with the standard auto shifter or do I need a B&M piece??

the normal shifter still works fine.. just alot easyer with a B&M. sometimes with the stock shifter you can go 2 gears up at once.. which wouldnt be good with it flat stick and shiftin to 3 instead of 2nd.. or even 4th

[savage1987]

Oh yeah I never thought of that...... hmm.. that's definitely one to think about. Are there any disadvantages to manualising? (Apart from the fact that you can't be lazy and just leave it in D any more)

Also, I'm very interested to see pictures of people who have put a B&M shifter in their standard centre console.. I don't want to butcher my interior to stick a new shifter in there..

Thanks guys, this thread's very helpful.
Sam

[ephect]

heres a few shifters pics i've collected..

to the owners, please let me know if i've posted your pics, and would like them removed.. dont know who's cars they are..

[savage1987]

Thanks a lot ephect, seems like they can actually look pretty good! I feel a lot less apprehensive about the whole idea now

[1991_Vn2nV]

Personally if going B&M i'd get the quicksilver. The Pro Ratchet is horrid I think.

[savage1987]

Which is which? I've driven that manualised HK monaro i mentioned, the shifter is a ratchet setup I think, it seems ok You put it in drive then just whack it forwards or backwards for upshift/downshift. The T-bar (it is a T-bar, not a round knob thing) doesn't actually move, it bounces back to the same position in any gear (except neutral reverse and park lol)

What's the difference between the quicksilver and the pro ratchet? Is the one I just described either of those?

[Panama]

sounds like pro ratchet to me

[savage1987]

So what's better about the quicksilver?? How is it different?

[V85000i]

i'd keep the stock shifter, whenever i hold it back gears and change up manually now, i never go to far,

[1991_Vn2nV]

So what's better about the quicksilver?? How is it different?

Its the same, just looks better. I like it when its installed so all you can see is the shifter, but you have to make up a metal box that drops it in another inch or so and it has the round knob.

The pro ratchet just looks like crap and it seems its also illegal.

[savage1987]

I'd be interested to see a photo of that sort of installation if anyone has one... with just the shifter visible.
I don't understand what could be illegal about the pro ratchet shifter... it's just a different type of the same basic thing lol ... Anybody know why this would be the case?

[1991_Vn2nV]

Because it doesn't illuminate (as in the P R N D 2 1).

[AirStrike]

Its the same, just looks better. I like it when its installed so all you can see is the shifter, but you have to make up a metal box that drops it in another inch or so and it has the round knob.

The pro ratchet just looks like crap and it seems its also illegal.

The quicksilver looks like balls tho, its so 80's!

[savage1987]

Aha. I can see how that could be less than desirable.... Shame, it's far less bulky than the quicksilver unit. Still after more pics of the quicksilvers though...

[1991_Vn2nV]

Like this... But you can do a better install than this..



These in customs are awesome...

[1991_Vn2nV]

Or theres the Megashifter:

[savage1987]

Well that's given me a couple of ideas anyway mate I'll see what happens when I talk to WA Automatics. Should be in the next couple of weeks. No money at the moment

[savage1987]

Haven't spoken to them yet, will have to on Monday though.... fault code #68 is coming up - transmission component slipping. With one week until a dyno day!!! *rant!*

I'm going to need to think quickly to recover lost horsepower!