Penrite oil issue
Hey guys just wondering whats a great quality oil to use in a 5litre injected motor with 195.000kms done
ive heard roomers about penrite all apparently its recycled oil i dont know if this is true all bull****
if anyone recommends sumthing better please be welcome to let us know cheers
hey mate, I work at burson, sell penrite all the time.... it is a preaty well respected brand.... and it is definatly not recycled oil.
id use that, or either something by nulon.. just make sure you get the right viscosity, other than that... nulon/penrite would be fine mate.
ah ok im using HPR 40 mate would dat be fine
LS-EXUAL
Yep, i use Penrite 20w/50 usually. Never had a problem whatsoever.
What makes you think recycled oil is bad anyway ? We'll all be using one day in the future, wether we like it or not. Oil is oil, if its there, it means its left of what hasnt burnt, or broken down into sludge etc. Oil in reality does not get worn, it gets dirty, wear additives additives expire and Viscosity improvers break down making it go thin then thick again as it oxidizes. At this point is would not really be cost effective for Penrite to be using it. Like recylced paper, could possibly cost more than the original. This rumour has gone on long enough to the extent they now put 100% original etc etc on their oils which is a waste of ink. THey get it either from Shell, Texaco havoline(Castrol) or Mobil. BP in their i think as well.Originally Posted by mr_clubby96
If the oil has a SM or SL rating with a minimum diesel CF spec, and its reclycled who cares. A good name company, with an honest API spec that Penrite would have goes to alot of trouble. I think most people will say, "reclyced ! its sh%te it will burn etc etc". I tell you now, it will be good enough to last 5-10,000 ks and normal wear. Tests are slowly coming through showing this. The interesting thing about it is that it will be a mixture of mineral ,synthetic etc. Hybrid stuff. Its already hydrocracked and purified, some PAO etc. they just clean it and seperate by viscosity. There are oils out there that alot of people love on this forum and its pure crap, hide all their data and info. Penrite release alot of good info on their oils. Penrite 15W60 is a fantastic oil for your car.
Supermarket oil is bad (not all of them, the later Shell and Havoline oils at Coles and Safeway are fantastic(SL/SM)) cause its old base stocks from various companies and only meets the older SA, SC/D, SG criteria. They have less anti wear additives and detergents. Those of you who love Castrol Edge 25W50, hey guess what, its SG rated ! 1996 pre spec stuff. I would use a Recycled SL/SM rated oil over that any day !
hi mate i have a vs 5 litre ,i have the same problem,trying to find the right oil,everyone has an opinion,i am going to give moblie 1 fully synthetic a go 15w50.people say dont ur engine was not designed for that,after doing some research and phone calls all the myths are thrown out the window.Good for cold starts has a great high temp range.This was confirmed by a chemist i got a hold of.
same with me =) no noisy lifters nothing nice and quiet operation
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if its always cold then go a 15 grade oil but the manufacturers recommended 20-50 works well. Last oil i got what repco branded which is just rebadged mobil oil containers
was semi synthetic 20-50 oil, no issues whatsoever and only 25 bucks..
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Penrite is a small australian company and one would anticipate that they are not able to match it with the big players when it comes to R and D. I have had a bad experience with their product and it was directly related to them not doing enough R and D. If you want to know more, pm me.
Recycled, pure synthetic, mineral......it doesnt really matter if the product performs.
Have you really proved it that it was the oil ? Penrite are actually matching it fine, look at the shelf space buying power they have ? Maybe you have done more R & D than Penrite, that would amaze me. Why do you need a PM for ? I would never be scared to talk about an oil company. I dont owe them anything.
Yes rebadged Repco is Mobil stuff, but i dont think they have a semi synth 20W50 ??? I picked up the ROSM oil for $15 with a filter on theri special now, which is rebadged Mobil as well.
Franks V8, I would not use Mobil 1. Its too expensive, and is the most common and most popular brand of oil before Shell to rattle and make noise. Their grades are on the thinner side of things. Their 15W50 is thinner than another brands 15W50 so on and so on. It doesnt seem to like other oils and runs best when used from the start and all the cars life. Its wear rates arent the best either, if you speak to a chemist, dont talk to one from Mobil or the manufacturer yo asking. Talk to Caterpillar etc, they may help you.
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yes.
Are you kidding. Yes, they are doing well in the Australian market, well appear to be by the faith in the product shown on this forum. My own experience is that this faith is misguided and the popularity is due to clever product placement by only having it in auto stores etc.
I dont want to make large posts that require careful reading to understand the problem, then have the same people start a fight because their manhood is being threatened because someone else doesnt like their brand of oil....... If someone is genuinely interested they will pm me, as many have already.
yeah man, id use that.
Sorry commsirac, been a while since i checked this thread. I still dont understand why you wouldn't say in on the page. Since then, Penrite have recently put out a tech sheet (on the tech bulletin section), from reading it there is a strong possibility they do use recycled oil, not sure if in all products or which ones.
It is very hard to damage an engine from using the correct oil. Too many variables, unless you used to thick, fair enough like their 30W70 etc, but i find it very hard to believe. Possibly you were breaking in a new engine or a cam. Possilble for an oil company to produce a freak batch with very low additives and qualities which would cause damage. It would also need to be the only oil you have used to be able to blame it. Did Penrite fix your engine ? If they did that would be enough to satisfy me that they had some fault. If not, if i were so confident it was their oil i would be per suiting them. THey would surely pay, or even have tested the oil and see the engine, it is priceless information for them to see this.....
i ask my chemist for car oil advice all the time aswell
lol....
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Why waste time speculating?.....you are way off the mark.
Do what others do pm me to get the facts. No, Im not going to send them unless you ask.
I'm far from an expert but swear by Penrite semi and full synthetic products. Currently use the semi 20-50 in my vr v6 and full syn 15-40 in the mrs Honda Odyssey...Seems to stay very clean for a long time....
I got onto Penrite products while living at Bowral and was having oil pressure issues with my WB Magnum-was using Moreys oil stabiliser with Magnatec and was changing oil every 5,000k.....Spoke to the Penrite rep one day at my local spares place and he threw me a bottle of sin 15....oil pressure probs gone, no more stabiliser required and after 10,000 the oil looked like the day I had put it in the engine....From speaking to others seems few give their engine a good flush before changing their oil-spend those extra $$$ and give it a flush!
Thats allright Commsirac, obviously your afraid of a lawsuit, so i will stay away.......Magnum if you gonna flush, use something like Auto-RX (Endless info, then best metal cleaner by far) i using some at the moment. The solvents are too strong, you better off using a Diesel oil or the Shell Helix/Pennzoil Platinum as they are the better ones known for actually cleaning. Even then, all oils only clean new stuff, and stop new stuff from forming, they wont touch the old baked on stuff.
Magnum, another thing, oil staying clean is not a good sign (obviously not straight away), or you changing it quite often. My oil only gets dirty(as in darkens) around 5-6000k's as i mainly run lpg. Petrol cars i expect sooner.
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One thing that is obvious is that you have not read Penrite oil issue properly, or are accusing me being a liar.
You perhaps obviously "cant handle the truth", want to close your eyes to facts? that go against the grain of the rhetoric that you foist upon the forum?
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hmmm, you guys seem real keen to help this bloke choose a good oil.
I aint touchin the Penrite topic. How about Valvoline Durablend or one of the fancy friction mofied Nulon oils they sell at Repco on the shelf with no price tags. Probly means its real spensive so it must be good ey ? !!
If yur gonna agrue please do it in the VX section. lol. ( joke )
LS-EXUAL
Yeah Valvoline is another brand i would trust. Either Penzoil, Penrite or Valvoline.
I personally go with Penrite, been using it for a few years now, as VR304 said, the 20w/50 is good stuff in the Penrite, works well hot and cold. Not too thick, not to thin. I wouldn't go any thicker than a 25w.
Durablend it fantastic stuff. Nulon is good but even though they have told me they dont, i still reckon they use teflon in the oil.
Rhetoric ? Ok Commsirac, enough from us. At the end of the day i havn't really had a bad oil experience (yet) and i shouldnt accuse you of anything. Full apologies mate, of no benefit to anyone. We have our opinions, and one of mine is i don't owe anything to oil companies in the sense that i am a customer so i would never hide anything from them....I shouldnt force my opinions on anyone but you are guilty of this yourself Commsirac...anyway enough from me....
hey guys just wondering wat oil would be the best to use outta these 3x
1. mobil super 1000 20w 50
2. penzoil gt street machine 20w 50
3.havoline premium 20w 50
cheer guys
Either of them are good, but the Havoline Premium is worth using. Same stuff was used for the Valvoline V8 Supercar straight out of the bottle.....Mobil Super can be bought cheaper as the Repco stuff or the Red 6 litre ROFL rebadged Mobil bottles.....they are all good.
I can only tell you mobil 1 is faster down the drag strip than Penrite 10-50. So I guess it's better/less friction But I do use Penrite semi synth at the moment because it's cheaperI also need 50 weight when hot to keep good oil pressure at idle and 10 to get fast pressure when cold so all up 10-50 works well for me 20-50 sounds a bit fat when cold to me
I have used Penrite products exclusively for many years.
I tore down an engine after 20k [i was using Mobil1 then] & was not happy with the internal wear.
Penrite is Oz owned, & made for OZ conditions. Hey, it dont snow up here!
Every1 is going to have their own opinions on this topic! That's life!
It doesn't make anybodies opinion more or less valid!
I choose Penrite products from experience, not because it is what my brother/mate/tosser on internet ect says!
Another good thread destroyed!
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