Penrite oil issue

mr_clubby96 · #1 03-09-2008, 05:07 AM

Hey guys just wondering whats a great quality oil to use in a 5litre injected motor with 195.000kms done

ive heard roomers about penrite all apparently its recycled oil i dont know if this is true all bull****

if anyone recommends sumthing better please be welcome to let us know cheers

DANVSUTE · #2 03-09-2008, 05:36 PM

hey mate, I work at burson, sell penrite all the time.... it is a preaty well respected brand.... and it is definatly not recycled oil.
id use that, or either something by nulon.. just make sure you get the right viscosity, other than that... nulon/penrite would be fine mate.

mr_clubby96 · #3 03-09-2008, 06:08 PM

ah ok im using HPR 40 mate would dat be fine

Cobez · #4 03-09-2008, 06:16 PM

Yep, i use Penrite 20w/50 usually. Never had a problem whatsoever.

vxcalais_01 · #5 03-09-2008, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_clubby96

Hey guys just wondering whats a great quality oil to use in a 5litre injected motor with 195.000kms done

ive heard roomers about penrite all apparently its recycled oil i dont know if this is true all bull****

if anyone recommends sumthing better please be welcome to let us know cheers

What makes you think recycled oil is bad anyway ? We'll all be using one day in the future, wether we like it or not. Oil is oil, if its there, it means its left of what hasnt burnt, or broken down into sludge etc. Oil in reality does not get worn, it gets dirty, wear additives additives expire and Viscosity improvers break down making it go thin then thick again as it oxidizes. At this point is would not really be cost effective for Penrite to be using it. Like recylced paper, could possibly cost more than the original. This rumour has gone on long enough to the extent they now put 100% original etc etc on their oils which is a waste of ink. THey get it either from Shell, Texaco havoline(Castrol) or Mobil. BP in their i think as well.

If the oil has a SM or SL rating with a minimum diesel CF spec, and its reclycled who cares. A good name company, with an honest API spec that Penrite would have goes to alot of trouble. I think most people will say, "reclyced ! its sh%te it will burn etc etc". I tell you now, it will be good enough to last 5-10,000 ks and normal wear. Tests are slowly coming through showing this. The interesting thing about it is that it will be a mixture of mineral ,synthetic etc. Hybrid stuff. Its already hydrocracked and purified, some PAO etc. they just clean it and seperate by viscosity. There are oils out there that alot of people love on this forum and its pure crap, hide all their data and info. Penrite release alot of good info on their oils. Penrite 15W60 is a fantastic oil for your car.

Supermarket oil is bad (not all of them, the later Shell and Havoline oils at Coles and Safeway are fantastic(SL/SM)) cause its old base stocks from various companies and only meets the older SA, SC/D, SG criteria. They have less anti wear additives and detergents. Those of you who love Castrol Edge 25W50, hey guess what, its SG rated ! 1996 pre spec stuff. I would use a Recycled SL/SM rated oil over that any day !

franks v8 man ute · #6 03-09-2008, 09:59 PM

hi mate i have a vs 5 litre ,i have the same problem,trying to find the right oil,everyone has an opinion,i am going to give moblie 1 fully synthetic a go 15w50.people say dont ur engine was not designed for that,after doing some research and phone calls all the myths are thrown out the window.Good for cold starts has a great high temp range.This was confirmed by a chemist i got a hold of.

VR304 · #7 03-09-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobez

Yep, i use Penrite 20w/50 usually. Never had a problem whatsoever.

same with me =) no noisy lifters nothing nice and quiet operation

vnv8driver · #8 04-09-2008, 12:18 AM

if its always cold then go a 15 grade oil but the manufacturers recommended 20-50 works well. Last oil i got what repco branded which is just rebadged mobil oil containers

was semi synthetic 20-50 oil, no issues whatsoever and only 25 bucks..

commsirac · #9 04-09-2008, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mr_clubby96

Hey guys just wondering whats a great quality oil to use in a 5litre injected motor with 195.000kms done

ive heard roomers about penrite all apparently its recycled oil i dont know if this is true all bull****

if anyone recommends sumthing better please be welcome to let us know cheers

Penrite is a small australian company and one would anticipate that they are not able to match it with the big players when it comes to R and D. I have had a bad experience with their product and it was directly related to them not doing enough R and D. If you want to know more, pm me.
Recycled, pure synthetic, mineral......it doesnt really matter if the product performs.

vxcalais_01 · #10 04-09-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by commsirac

Penrite is a small australian company and one would anticipate that they are not able to match it with the big players when it comes to R and D. I have had a bad experience with their product and it was directly related to them not doing enough R and D. If you want to know more, pm me.
Recycled, pure synthetic, mineral......it doesnt really matter if the product performs.

Have you really proved it that it was the oil ? Penrite are actually matching it fine, look at the shelf space buying power they have ? Maybe you have done more R & D than Penrite, that would amaze me. Why do you need a PM for ? I would never be scared to talk about an oil company. I dont owe them anything.

Yes rebadged Repco is Mobil stuff, but i dont think they have a semi synth 20W50 ??? I picked up the ROSM oil for $15 with a filter on theri special now, which is rebadged Mobil as well.

Franks V8, I would not use Mobil 1. Its too expensive, and is the most common and most popular brand of oil before Shell to rattle and make noise. Their grades are on the thinner side of things. Their 15W50 is thinner than another brands 15W50 so on and so on. It doesnt seem to like other oils and runs best when used from the start and all the cars life. Its wear rates arent the best either, if you speak to a chemist, dont talk to one from Mobil or the manufacturer yo asking. Talk to Caterpillar etc, they may help you.

commsirac · #11 07-09-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vxcalais_01

Have you really proved it that it was the oil ?

yes.

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Originally Posted by vxcalais_01

Penrite are actually matching it fine, look at the shelf space buying power they have ?

Are you kidding. Yes, they are doing well in the Australian market, well appear to be by the faith in the product shown on this forum. My own experience is that this faith is misguided and the popularity is due to clever product placement by only having it in auto stores etc.

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Originally Posted by vxcalais_01

Why do you need a PM for ? I would never be scared to talk about an oil company. I dont owe them anything.

I dont want to make large posts that require careful reading to understand the problem, then have the same people start a fight because their manhood is being threatened because someone else doesnt like their brand of oil....... If someone is genuinely interested they will pm me, as many have already.

DANVSUTE · #12 07-09-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobez

Yep, i use Penrite 20w/50 usually. Never had a problem whatsoever.

yeah man, id use that.

vxcalais_01 · #13 07-10-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by commsirac

yes.

Are you kidding. Yes, they are doing well in the Australian market, well appear to be by the faith in the product shown on this forum. My own experience is that this faith is misguided and the popularity is due to clever product placement by only having it in auto stores etc.

I dont want to make large posts that require careful reading to understand the problem, then have the same people start a fight because their manhood is being threatened because someone else doesnt like their brand of oil....... If someone is genuinely interested they will pm me, as many have already.

Sorry commsirac, been a while since i checked this thread. I still dont understand why you wouldn't say in on the page. Since then, Penrite have recently put out a tech sheet (on the tech bulletin section), from reading it there is a strong possibility they do use recycled oil, not sure if in all products or which ones.

It is very hard to damage an engine from using the correct oil. Too many variables, unless you used to thick, fair enough like their 30W70 etc, but i find it very hard to believe. Possibly you were breaking in a new engine or a cam. Possilble for an oil company to produce a freak batch with very low additives and qualities which would cause damage. It would also need to be the only oil you have used to be able to blame it. Did Penrite fix your engine ? If they did that would be enough to satisfy me that they had some fault. If not, if i were so confident it was their oil i would be per suiting them. THey would surely pay, or even have tested the oil and see the engine, it is priceless information for them to see this.....