Starter motor removal (V8)

[undar8ed1]

Tried removing the starter motor from the car today, I got it off but could not get it out of the bay the pacemakers are in the way I tried going forwards up down backward still no luck, anyone know how to get it out without taking the headers off?

[tittezzzvr]

Ive had vb's vc's & vh's
on every one the headers have had to come off to get the starter off
sorry but thats all the info I can give you on this
hang on this mite help.
having ratchet spanners which will make it alot quicker & easyer to get the headres on & off
especialy the two nuts/bolts in between the carbi & the rocker cover
thats why I bought mine