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    Im getting bored of only havin a 15 second nearly stock standard vr so i wana up the power and im tossing up whether to supercharge it or chuck a injected 304 into it
    I know the 8 will sound nicer and stuff but also in nz i hardly see supercharged vr's or vs's most people have v8s
    Plus by the time i get a new crossmember and bellhousing comp etc i think a supercharger kit is the cheaper option
    Im kinda leaning towards the supercharger coz also i only got 130000ish ks on the motor
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    im hoping from 12.5 seconds out of a intercooled near stock l67, it's no 11 second v8 but it appeals to me for some reason. it is to easy to get a v8 going real quick nower days, i want a challenge. just some thoughts for ya

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    depends what you want really just lookup the pro's and cons of each, personally id rather a v8 with a s/c, 2 birds with 1 stone : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxcxcxvcvcvc View Post
    Drop an L67 in her mate
    Actually didnt think of that its probably cheaper than the s/c kit and with a pulley kit around the same kws and they look cooler with the s/c in the valley is it just a straight swap?

    Quote Originally Posted by vnv8driver View Post
    depends what you want really just lookup the pro's and cons of each, personally id rather a v8 with a s/c, 2 birds with 1 stone : )
    id love this but unfortunatly my wallets only so big. if i could id have the blower and scoop hanging outa the bonnet so that evryone knows i mean buisness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasher View Post
    Actually didnt think of that its probably cheaper than the s/c kit and with a pulley kit around the same kws and they look cooler with the s/c in the valley is it just a straight swap?
    i've not seen any cheap l67 here in NZ and when they do come up the off road boys snap em up real quick as they seem to be the engine of choice at the mo for custom ofroad vehicles. the raptor kit unfortunatly isn't cheap either by the time you land it here in NZ with exchange rates and taxes. personally i'd go raptor............ there aren't many supercharged V6's here but it won't be the first
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    Found an l67 at a wreckers (not going to say where) for 2500 and all the mounts and bellhousing bolts look like they will all line up just 1 q about it though is there much difference between the loom of that and my original loom or could i even use a ecotec loom and also will i be able to tune the kalmaker ecu to suit the s/c ecotec?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasher View Post
    Found an l67 at a wreckers (not going to say where) for 2500 and all the mounts and bellhousing bolts look like they will all line up just 1 q about it though is there much difference between the loom of that and my original loom or could i even use a ecotec loom and also will i be able to tune the kalmaker ecu to suit the s/c ecotec?
    you'll need the loom and ecu to go with it to save on a lot of hassles. yes kalmaker can be used on the s/c setup. you got the full kalmaker software and ECU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by immortality View Post
    you'll need the loom and ecu to go with it to save on a lot of hassles. yes kalmaker can be used on the s/c setup. you got the full kalmaker software and ECU?
    nah i want to get ahold of the software. got the kalmaker ecu though the straight plug in type for the vr. it came with the car when i bought it just need to find the programme from somewhere.
    does any ecotec loom work or its gotta be a l67 loom? coz the wrecker said hell chuck in the loom if he finds it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasher View Post
    nah i want to get ahold of the software. got the kalmaker ecu though the straight plug in type for the vr. it came with the car when i bought it just need to find the programme from somewhere.
    does any ecotec loom work or its gotta be a l67 loom? coz the wrecker said hell chuck in the loom if he finds it
    unfortunatly the VR and VS ecu's are different. you would need to contact kalmaker to see if they are compatable but i wouldn't think so. try to get the loom with if possible.

    another option would be to convert the L67 to the VR loom and run it on MAP instead of MAF like the ecotecs are normally run. would require a custom tune however but i think it would be worth it. if you wait a while i may possibly be able to help with kalmaker software. working on something with a couple of guys at the mo.

    i do have the standard L67 tune floating around here somewhere but it would need to be run on a VS ecu and i'm no expert when it comes to the L67 setup
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    O well cheers anyway. i found a forum site www.l67torque.com • Index page they have a bit about doin the l36-l67 conversion looks like i just need the standard ecotec wiring loom and ecu and chuck a memcal on the ecu to tell it its now runing boost pretty much
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    I'm gonna say V8, because parts are easier and cheaper to come by.

    Also you've got two motors which are pretty similar in power, but one is already blown, the other is NA, so you've got more room to go with the V8.

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    Well I'll be no help to ya. I couldn't decide either so I ended up with both.... Even harder yet I can't tell ya which one I prefer because I like em both for different reasons.

    best bet for you would be to jump in two cars with each setup and drive them, decide which one is more to your liking and go that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasher View Post
    O well cheers anyway. i found a forum site www.l67torque.com • Index page they have a bit about doin the l36-l67 conversion looks like i just need the standard ecotec wiring loom and ecu and chuck a memcal on the ecu to tell it its now runing boost pretty much
    thats sweet, i have the L67 tune so thats simple. you will need to consider the trans also. with the standard ecotec ecu you will need to run the 4l60e trans. if oyu don't the ecu will throw fault codes at you. your other option would be to get a memcal with the trans stuff deleted and run your oringal 4l60 (t700r4) or manual trans. unfortunatly i don't have a ecotec tune with auto trans stuff deleted.

    if you are going to go down the ecotec ecu route i might be interested in the VR ecu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasher View Post
    Actually didnt think of that its probably cheaper than the s/c kit and with a pulley kit around the same kws and they look cooler with the s/c in the valley is it just a straight swap?
    Sorry i did not get back sooner mate, been busy working on my charger Yeah pretty much as the fellas above have said, engine mount wise i believe they are a straight swap but as for the looms if you use the standard ecotec loom some of the sensors are in different locations so you would need to chop into the loom and extend certain bits to suit the L67 ect, the other thing to remember is that the normal ecotec loom does not have the wiring for the Boost solenoid (From memory i think it tells the ECU how much boost the car is running and when the car is in reverse) so you would have to wire one up there is the site link above witch should cover everything you need for the convo! best of luck with it mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by immortality View Post
    thats sweet, i have the L67 tune so thats simple. you will need to consider the trans also. with the standard ecotec ecu you will need to run the 4l60e trans. if oyu don't the ecu will throw fault codes at you. your other option would be to get a memcal with the trans stuff deleted and run your oringal 4l60 (t700r4) or manual trans. unfortunatly i don't have a ecotec tune with auto trans stuff deleted.

    if you are going to go down the ecotec ecu route i might be interested in the VR ecu
    ill let you know if i sell the vr ecu then. im also considering going the full way and doing the vs kalmaker coz i want to keep the w55 supra manual in it

    I envy you cxcxcxvcvcvc. Wish i could say im workin on my charger, or any hemi powered vehicle in that case
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