Nolethane or Standard???

[-=ApheX=-]

Howdy peeps!!!

Needing some opinions at this stage!!!

My commo is in dyer need of bush replacements!
I recently had the rear pan hard bushes replaced with nolethane bushes, this comes under heavy recommendation from a Pedders specialist! So i reluctantly agreed!
So anyways I honestly don't believe that these bushes are any good!!!
So now my car is needing bushes replaced on the entire front end steering etc etc,
SO my question is through people experiance, or knowledge what are the differences between nolethane, and your standard bush you'd get from a holden dealer?
I am wanting to be very sure i will not be needing these to replace these again for a good while as it is it's costing me the better part of $600 to get it all done!!!!

[acarmody]

I have a lot of SuperPro bushes in the front and they are damn good as far as I can tell.
As for the difference between Nolathane and Holden bushes, I suppose it comes down to the individual bush. In some cases the Holden rubber ones are fine in other cases the Holden ones are crap. Take the strut bar to chassis bush for example, its crap out of the factory.
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[coasty]

ive got nolathan when i had my cruiser redone. its noisier and i dont think theyre as good.
next time im going rubber ones.

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

It totally depends on the application. Polyurethane bushes are harder and less flexible so they will stiffen up the ride and make it harsher and noisier. But the upside is that they make the car more responsive in the steering and the rear end less floaty.

[gontix]

I've replaced all my bushes. At a few key points I went with nolathane (like rear panhard rod) but all the rest I replaced with rubber (and this is on an S-pack VR). Nolathane can be to hard and sometimes can result in metal fatigue.

[greenfoam]

Rubber all the way (unless you are building a track car) I really dont beleive there's any place for a urathane on a car that's only driven on the road, it's just too harsh. Most old time suspension mechanics are full of storys about guys that got them to to a full urathane kit only to come back later and replace it all with rubber. However, run urathane on the front sway bar link pins as the factory ones snap in half everytime you go around a corner hard

[Morton]

I tend to agree. Nolathane for the swaybar links, and nolathane for the radius rods... but don't put the stuff anywhere else

[jas98]

well i have redone the entire suspension bushings in my VN and VS with normal Holden rubber except the rear upper control arm bushing and the stabilizer bar rubbers these are the only ones i have used polyurethane....especially the rear upp arms...don't go rubber go polyurethane (super pro) as it mad a heap of difference going from rubber to them....better take off.

as for strut bar to chassis well i haven't had a problem with rubber however i have herd of heaps of problems with the harder bushings in that place


id say stick with rubber. It has lasted this long and its cheap.the harder ones will wear out quicker and/or wear other parts and be pretty bumpy

edit: also use polyurethane in teh panhard rod

[Scooter79]

I had the front end of my car re-bushed 18 months ago by Pedders. Heavy duty sway bar links and all urathane. Bloody front end is knocking again just like it was before I had it done. So rubber ones lasted a good 10 years but urathane bushes were stuffed after just 18 months. I know what I'll be getting next time. I can't say urathane was much stiffer either. If you're going to replace stuffed rubber with anything, of course it's going to be stiffer.

[greenacc]

I fitted superpro in my radius rod and control arm few weeks ago. It now turns into corners heaps better, but is very bumpy and noiser than rubber. If u want comfort go rubber, performance go superpro, or compromise and use a combination that will give you a bit of both.

[-=ApheX=-]

awesome guys thanks for the responses!
well i have a few things to consider, although as some have mentioned, polys for the rear pan hard is a good move, I had new ones put in there couple of months back, at the time of them being new the car felt great compared to the farked bushes it had in it, but now it feels like the back end is rolling again...
just seems like these bushes have a sh*t life span???

[greenfoam]

The only rubbers that had been replaced from factory when I had my old VN was the panhard rod which had been done with urathane and guess which was the only rubber that wore out (drasticaly) and needed replacing while I had the car?. That's right the panhard rod:P so I did it right and put the factory rubber ones in . Vote one for rubber. Holden got it right with the HK's anything that wasn't rubber was a bronze bush, then they went to all rubber on the HT/G's but retained the bronze front end for the Bathurst models. Pity they forgot that tech

[Goose!!!]

Yeah gotta say rubber is the go.... I have had nolothane on a car with sports suspension and they made it bounce alot more!!! it started to creep sidways on all 4 wheels going round bends on country roads.

Rubber gives a little more give, and cusioning effect for jarring bumps....

[Surfwagon]

I just recently replaced all my front and rear ends in urethane and the steering response is a lot tighter but the minor bump harshness is quite a bit heavier than rubber.
Only rubber bush is the main diff to lower control arm.
If I did it again I would do the rear lower control arm front bush in rubber.
Also I would do the inner front control arm bush in rubber and the Kframe radius rod in rubber.
By doing those 4 points in rubber your ride will still be the same but the urethane in all the other minor locating points will help stiffen up the whole thing with compromising ride quality.

[Swordsy]

Just replaced the std rubber ones on the front of my VT with nolathane ones cos the ribber ones split off, feels a bit tighter when driving her around, i'm pretty happy with it.

[6 shooter]

Theres plenty of threads on this but to help it depends on ur application. if you dnt mind a rigid ride and want better handling then nolothane are the go but if its for a comfortable cruiser then rubbers will do fine