3k 4 engine + labour

[fuzzy2308]

i got quoted from my local mechanic for $3grand for a rebuilt ecotec plus labour to remove current engine and insert new engine, is he trying to rip my off or is this a good deal?


thanx

[Boonz]

sounds pretty fir if the new motor is included in that price.recon ones are usually around the $2000 mark

[eurekamad94]

what year is the ecotec ??? / how many k's ??? any mod's ??? it's quiet alot for just a new engine ..........

[Zuicider]

i got charged 2.5 k for them not to find the problem plus chuck in another engine found the problem in 1.5 hours with savage1987

[dufus]

what year is the ecotec ??? / how many k's ??? any mod's ??? it's quiet alot for just a new engine ..........

Dude, have you ever priced a rebuilt ecotec engine? and do you know what rebuilding an engine involves?

[BxTom]

I voted bad deal, not necessarily because of the price but because, from what I think you are saying, the reco engine is done by your local mechanic, thus not carrying the same warranty that you would get through one of the bigger companies.

Cheers,
Tom.

[POVRTY]

sounds about right, ide still do some shopping around but if it includes everything, and absolutly everything and you like the mechenic go 4 it

[eurekamad94]

Dude, have you ever priced a rebuilt ecotec engine? and do you know what rebuilding an engine involves?

c'mon mate i doubt it was fully rebuilt wich is why i asked how many k's ect most of the time they only do it half arsed just like reco alternator's they just replace brushes clean em up and put em back on the shelf

[dufus]

c'mon mate i doubt it was fully rebuilt wich is why i asked how many k's ect most of the time they only do it half arsed just like reco alternator's they just replace brushes clean em up and put em back on the shelf

A rebuilt engine is different to an alternator

To the OP if you trust the mechanic, or know of people who have delt with this mechanic with success, the price is fair, dont listen to this guy, check his previous posts before you take his advice.

[Adamvr93]

pretty fair price for a rebuild.. but then getting it installed and what not... it'll end up being quite expensive... a rebuild kit is about 800 bucks from repco (mechanics get it cheaper) so they are putting over 2000 on labour.. hmm.. anyone would think mechanics make good money

[Pub247]

I voted bad deal, not necessarily because of the price but because, from what I think you are saying, the reco engine is done by your local mechanic, thus not carrying the same warranty that you would get through one of the bigger companies.

Cheers,
Tom.

Not correct most mechanic's ges motor through us we charge around $2500 plus labour your looking at 3-4 grand then theres more for new accessories.

c'mon mate i doubt it was fully rebuilt wich is why i asked how many k's ect most of the time they only do it half arsed just like reco alternator's they just replace brushes clean em up and put em back on the shelf

Yes a reco motor is fully rebuilt. I'm sick of these thread popping up where people say its a rip off i work for the engine reco-er where most of these quoted prices come from. Alot of people dont realise the cost and how much work goes into these motors. I can tell you for certain we make no profit on long motors most of our profit comes from heads section alone and our desiel rebuilds. The whole industry is going under even ACL is about to go brankraupt

[Pub247]

pretty fair price for a rebuild.. but then getting it installed and what not... it'll end up being quite expensive... a rebuild kit is about 800 bucks from repco (mechanics get it cheaper) so they are putting over 2000 on labour.. hmm.. anyone would think mechanics make good money

Most mechanic's dont rebuild they're own motors you know why? none of them really have the equipment to do the machining. at the most they will do the assembly which is the easiest part of the whole process. I doubt theres many mechanics that know how to use a serdi or grind a crank only automotive machinists learn that stuff.
If you're paying $800 for an acl race series rebuild kit thats a good price cost is only just under $700.
Have you ever assembled a motor? it takes quite a few hours just to check clearances.

[Boonz]

usually takes a full day to build a motor from scratch and check everything and stuff. which is getting close to 900 bucks for labour on its own

also depends where you go to find a mechanic to talk to about rebuilding motors pub... alot of guys around where i live know how to use crank grinders and borers cos they do alot of stuff afters hours at the engine reconditioners

if i was paying $3000 for the motor and for it to be removed and put in i would be over the moon

but im a mechanic so free use of hoists and tools is handy

[Pub247]

usually takes a full day to build a motor from scratch and check everything and stuff. which is getting close to 900 bucks for labour on its own

also depends where you go to find a mechanic to talk to about rebuilding motors pub... alot of guys around where i live know how to use crank grinders and borers cos they do alot of stuff afters hours at the engine reconditioners

if i was paying $3000 for the motor and for it to be removed and put in i would be over the moon

but im a mechanic so free use of hoists and tools is handy

I know theyre are quite a few mechanics out there that do know how to and have the equipment but a vast majority dont. You'll find a lot of the older mechanics know more about reconditioning than younger ones they dont teach you those things anymore.

[Boonz]

cos it costs too much for so little profit
especially when you can buy a brand new motor for newer cars for under $5000
with everything on it ready to bolt and plug in and turn the key

[Pub247]

cos it costs too much for so little profit
especially when you can buy a brand new motor for newer cars for under $5000
with everything on it ready to bolt and plug in and turn the key

Yep thats true. If it wasnt for commercial industry we'd have gone out of business years ago. People these days arent willing to spend the money on a reco motor thats worth more than the car sometimes.
The thing that keeps most reconditioners afloat these days are performance orientated motors. I'll tell alot of the new apprentices that automotive machinists is almost a dead end trade there are very few options as to where to work in future. If ACL goes under my work could be in trouble at the very least price for reco's are going to go up and for a lot of engines its going to be very hard to source parts

[eurekamad94]

A rebuilt engine is different to an alternator

To the OP if you trust the mechanic, or know of people who have delt with this mechanic with success, the price is fair, dont listen to this guy, check his previous posts before you take his advice.

yeah and check through this bloke's post's too to see how many buthole waffles have come from his mouth ..........

[eurekamad94]

Not correct most mechanic's ges motor through us we charge around $2500 plus labour your looking at 3-4 grand then theres more for new accessories.



Yes a reco motor is fully rebuilt. I'm sick of these thread popping up where people say its a rip off i work for the engine reco-er where most of these quoted prices come from. Alot of people dont realise the cost and how much work goes into these motors. I can tell you for certain we make no profit on long motors most of our profit comes from heads section alone and our desiel rebuilds. The whole industry is going under even ACL is about to go brankraupt

well ya learn something new everyday

[Adamvr93]

Most mechanic's dont rebuild they're own motors you know why? none of them really have the equipment to do the machining. at the most they will do the assembly which is the easiest part of the whole process. I doubt theres many mechanics that know how to use a serdi or grind a crank only automotive machinists learn that stuff.
If you're paying $800 for an acl race series rebuild kit thats a good price cost is only just under $700.
Have you ever assembled a motor? it takes quite a few hours just to check clearances.

yea i know i have a few mates that are apprentice mechanics and none of them touch engines... maybe replce a head gasket or something.. and because of that they know nothing and they arent learning the full trade.. not to brag but i am better than all my mechanic mates at anything to do with engines whether its replacing parts, finding problems, or even building an engine and i'm an apprentice electrician...
nah well that was the price i got from repco for a rebuild kit... i did specify the ACL race series kit but now that i think about it theres no way repco would be doing it that cheap... he must have given me the price for the wrong kit..
and yes i've assembled motors.. but thats only with the same parts just replacing rings, bearings and seals... but im hopefully rebuilding my engine soon with a acl race series kit... so i should learn quite alot doing that.. also be ready for any questions i may have... coz i'm sure i'll have alot to ask you guys haha..

cheers,

Adam

[ScoHar]

Most mechanic's dont rebuild they're own motors you know why? none of them really have the equipment to do the machining. at the most they will do the assembly which is the easiest part of the whole process. I doubt theres many mechanics that know how to use a serdi or grind a crank only automotive machinists learn that stuff.
If you're paying $800 for an acl race series rebuild kit thats a good price cost is only just under $700.
Have you ever assembled a motor? it takes quite a few hours just to check clearances.

Bah a serdi, Sunnen VGS-20 all the way......

[stocky]

yeah and check through this bloke's post's too to see how many buthole waffles have come from his mouth ..........

wow. what a mature choice of words. why are you commenting in a thread you know nothing about

[VryNeat]

well ya learn something new everyday

first day i ever read one of your posts i learned u know absolutely NOTHING about anything including cars and grammar **SIGH** go do your homework

[eurekamad94]

first day i ever read one of your posts i learned u know absolutely NOTHING about anything including cars and grammar **SIGH** go do your homework

funny you say that ......... im doing it now auctully

[VryNeat]

funny you say that ......... im doing it now auctully

clearly you're not studying english

[2stroke]

That seems about right if its a hm gem ect. Have got one in mine atm, cost me about $3700 all up (parts, fitting ect) the engine was $2800 at the time i think. I know people bitch about hm gem since hm took over but mines being running sweet, lol probably made sure after I had a go at motofit/hm gem before i had it fitted with concens of complaints. Its being running sweet but i wish i would have got something hotter at the time off them or just did an 5L conversion.