Looking at buying a VR-VS

[revcore]

I'm thinking about buying a VR or VS wagon. I'm not too farmiliar with these models as the latest Commodore I've owned is my 308 VK Berlina wagon.
What are the most common faults with the VR's and VS's, In particular the 3.8 auto's.
Cheers

[dufus]

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[social]

If you want your car to naturally go hard, a manual vr will own a vs any day due to the fact vr's have the same engine as the vn/vp's the buick, and the vs+ have the ecotecs

[dufus]

If you want your car to naturally go hard, a manual vr will own a vs any day due to the fact vr's have the same engine as the vn/vp's the buick, and the vs+ have the ecotecs

care to elaborate on this abit mate. The VS has the ecotec which has more power than a buick and the cars are of very similar weight. In most cases the condition of these cars will play a much bigger role.

[social]

well the vn vp and vr's as soon as you touch you accelerator jump off the line, unlike the ecotecs take a second for reaction to the engine, as said in a previous thread on here its put there for anti thrash of some sort.

[vs wagon 3800]

well the vn vp and vr's as soon as you touch you accelerator jump off the line, unlike the ecotecs take a second for reaction to the engine, as said in a previous thread on here its put there for anti thrash of some sort.

mabey a manual VR would slay and Auto VS but there is no way a manual vr would slay a manual vs...unless it was F@#KED or the driver didnt know how to drive a manual

[dufus]

well the vn vp and vr's as soon as you touch you accelerator jump off the line, unlike the ecotecs take a second for reaction to the engine, as said in a previous thread on here its put there for anti thrash of some sort.

hmmm you have obviously never driven a VS then, manual for manual the VS is a faster car (in most cases, like i said condition plays a large part)

[Cobez]

Even better, **** the stupid V6 off, and buy a 304, or even better, an LS1?. How can you go from a 308 VK to a bloody 3.8 V6? Will be a pretty big let down power wise obviously.

[holden_man86]

Even better, **** the stupid V6 off, and buy a 304, or even better, an LS1?. How can you go from a 308 VK to a bloody 3.8 V6? Will be a pretty big let down power wise obviously.

i love my 3.8lt v6

[dufus]

Even better, **** the stupid V6 off, and buy a 304, or even better, an LS1?. How can you go from a 308 VK to a bloody 3.8 V6? Will be a pretty big let down power wise obviously.

If it was a resonably stock 308 the power difference wont be great, infact chances are the V6 will have more power then the 308 if it is reasonably stock.

[holden_man86]

Even better, **** the stupid V6 off, and buy a 304, or even better, an LS1?. How can you go from a 308 VK to a bloody 3.8 V6? Will be a pretty big let down power wise obviously.

:my::my: <<<< cobez try this please

[dufus]

Guys, can we get this back on topic for the OP, please

[Cobez]

i love my 3.8lt v6

Of course you do

[holden_man86]

So did i until i bought a V8

mate iam on my p's 3.8lt is good enough for me

[Cobez]

I'm thinking about buying a VR or VS wagon. I'm not too farmiliar with these models as the latest Commodore I've owned is my 308 VK Berlina wagon.
What are the most common faults with the VR's and VS's, In particular the 3.8 auto's.
Cheers

They haven't got many specific problems so to speak. I mean, electric aerials generally stuff up, power window regulators wear out etc. Depends how much it has been thrashed, how well or badly it's been looked after etc. Some things on one VS, may break quicker than some things on another VS.

Just check it out the best you can, if it all seems to run ok and have problems, that's the best you can do mate. If something internal is wrong and hasn't shown any problems yet, there isn't much you can do unfortunately except deal with it when it happens.

Just make sure it idles smooth, doesn't blow smoke, check the colour of the coolant, how much tread is on the tyres, check the gap between the edge of the wheel arch and the edge of the tyre is generally even on both sides, make sure the suspension (when you drive it) feels good, check for coolant and oil leaks on the block itself as best you can, check the trans pan for leaks, check the radiator for leaks, make sure it steers smoothly, check the diff when you drive it for any diff whine etc.

They are a few things to check for

[revcore]

Even better, **** the stupid V6 off, and buy a 304, or even better, an LS1?. How can you go from a 308 VK to a bloody 3.8 V6? Will be a pretty big let down power wise obviously.

Good question, I was waiting for someone to ask that. You are right, It will be a let down but it's something I'm gonna have to live with I'm afraid.
The old VK ain't what she used to be both in the looks department and the reliability department so it's time to say goodbye to the old VK and progress to a VR or VS wagon, And the reason behind wanting a V6 over a V8 is mainly economy. People say get a V8 and put it on gas.....But I hate LPG (Unless it's powering my BBQ, Then I don't mind it).
I'm not into high performance like I used to be in my younger years, As long as it gets me where I want to go without any drama's, And looks good then thats okay with me.

[Feralprick]

i have a 5ltr vr auto wagon and the fuel economy isnt that bad compared to the v6's.its almost on par.and yea i agree with you on the gas side of things i honestly dont think that it is worth it. so yea i would highly recommend a 5ltr over the v6 mate as i said i got one in my wagon and it goes great

[Hodz91]

well the vn vp and vr's as soon as you touch you accelerator jump off the line, unlike the ecotecs take a second for reaction to the engine, as said in a previous thread on here its put there for anti thrash of some sort.

Umm My Vs Owns Of the line ive driven many Vr's and even only 14 Kw or watever of diffrence the vs owns it.. the weight and how the engine is will play a part in it.. but Vs go way better


Oh and im pretty sure eco's are better
pretty sure anyway..

[Hodz91]

Anyways id say Get Vs More Stuff For your buck

[Cobez]

Good question, I was waiting for someone to ask that. You are right, It will be a let down but it's something I'm gonna have to live with I'm afraid.
The old VK ain't what she used to be both in the looks department and the reliability department so it's time to say goodbye to the old VK and progress to a VR or VS wagon, And the reason behind wanting a V6 over a V8 is mainly economy. People say get a V8 and put it on gas.....But I hate LPG (Unless it's powering my BBQ, Then I don't mind it).
I'm not into high performance like I used to be in my younger years, As long as it gets me where I want to go without any drama's, And looks good then thats okay with me.

Ahhh yeah, that's fair enough! Just a good ol' daily ey?

[Andrew426]

Oh and im pretty sure not all VS are Eco
only 95+ Series2
pretty sure anyway..

Umm... Didnt VS production start in Sept 95? So all VSs are 95+.

Main things to look out for in VRs and VSs is the 4l60e auto trans. They start to get a bit iffy after about 230thou. Aside from that, and the cheap plastic interiors in them, they go forever with normal maintanence. Just try and avoid getting one that has lived near the sea all its life, as they get these little pockets of rust around under the windscreen rubbers.

A lot of guys on this forum will try and point you towards an ecotec or a 304 because "it goes harder", but thats because they are all hoons. If you just want to get to work and back in a comfortible, reliable car - go for the ecotec. The buick is a good engine too, But the ecotec is smoother. If you can find yourself a low Ks VS, go for it. There isnt too much (aside from whats been mentioned) that goes wrong on these cars.

[Hodz91]

Umm... Didnt VS production start in Sept 95? So all VSs are 95+.

Yeh what i ment was that anything above 95 is sII
so that the eco would be better over a VR with 14-17xtra kw considering the dynamics and weight are practically the same between the Vr Vs
Bad typo.. cheers